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#1142777 - 07/12/18 09:34 AM Songoftheyear.com Scam Back Again  
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Hey All,

Beware, our scammy "friends" ( not ! ) at songoftheyear.com are back and at it again.

Perhaps someone could resurrect the old JPF thread concerning these shysters

Be warned ! and please don't waste your time, money or effort on a known rip off.

cheers, niteshift

#1142778 - 07/12/18 09:48 AM Re: Songoftheyear.com Scam Back Again [Re: niteshift]  
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Have a heart Nite. Even shysters need to make a living. Donate today to your friendly shysters. Maybe there should be a National Shyster's Day"?


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#1142780 - 07/12/18 10:07 AM Re: Songoftheyear.com Scam Back Again [Re: niteshift]  
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Here is what i wrote about it in another thread about songwriting contests:

...Well I never trusted songwriting contests, mostly because to most people, recording and production, is what makes a song great. Yet they always say that it doesn't factor into the decision, which is laughable. I'm a singer songwriter, I'm not a record producer.

This site says the same thing. Production doesn't matter...yeah right
http://www.songoftheyear.com

What makes me even more suspicious, the email this contest sends out shows pictures of "famous judges". Dave Grohl, The Edge, Lenny Kravitz, and Steven Tyler.... But on the website itself, you see no mention of these famous people.

The tip of the iceberg..... They send an email every two weeks telling me that the deadline has been extended, in fact, this contest seems to always be open

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#1143488 - 08/03/18 10:41 AM Re: Songoftheyear.com Scam Back Again [Re: niteshift]  
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They only say production doesn't matter because they want people without talent to send money to them. We have plenty of categories with guitar vocal or piano vocal or other single instrument vocal or for that matter just single instruments or vocal only. But we don't take money, and if you can't sing a lick and can't be bothered to find someone who can stay in key, don't enter a contest because you obviously don't care about anyone liking your music.

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#1143491 - 08/03/18 11:36 AM Re: Songoftheyear.com Scam Back Again [Re: niteshift]  
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Speaking as some one who has judged a LOT of contests, while we try NOT to let production influence the decision on song, when you listen to a LOT of songs, they all start running together. So the ones with better production will stand out more. But there is a bit of a trait you notice over and over on them. On the unproduced, work tape or guitar/piano vocal songs, you find them NOT as well written songs. The people who have the craft down and are serious about what they do, usually will have the more produced songs to compliment what they do. So you find those songs actually better written.

I've judged a lot of contests and can't remember a guitar/vocal song ever impressing me enough to pass it forward. They are usually not well written and not well represented,
Personally, if I was entering contests, and I have been in a few and won a few, I would never enter something that wasn't fully produced and well represented. Even if the prize was a professional demo. If I did that and won ,I would use the demo prize for another song.
But since most contests disqualify you if you have ever had a major cut or publishing deal, it probably doesn't matter either way. Just my opinion.

MAB

#1143502 - 08/03/18 01:40 PM Re: Songoftheyear.com Scam Back Again [Re: niteshift]  
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Eh, Well,
I received an E-Mail a couple of weeks ago from a uh, well known scammer, who will remain nameless, that they were always looking for songs. So I politely replied giving them the Web Site where they could listen to some of my songs that were available
for recording, release and possibly Publishing. Well they went and listened and selected one of my songs they liked and wanted to include it on a CD to send out to prospective contacts. They only wanted $500.00 to include my song on the CD. They were really nice about it. Well you would be to if you were selling a "Great" service of which you would probably receive nothing in return.I informed them my former Publisher said it was illegal to charge someone for publishing, of which it is.
They said they were not offering publishing just a chance to be on a CD to send out to contacts. I passed. I can promote my songs my self by giving people the Web Site.


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#1143513 - 08/03/18 11:39 PM Re: Songoftheyear.com Scam Back Again [Re: niteshift]  
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Well my feeling is, and some may disagree, but that turds are polished all the time. There used to be a sentiment that you could not polish a turd, or lipstick on a pig etc....

Pretty much non sense. If you sound better, you are better.

Remember in the end, you're attempting to entertain somebody, you're not trying to demonstrate craft or writing skills.

You're entering a product, not a song. Songs are abstract, recordings of songs and performances of songs is what sells it.

So, if trying to win a songwriting contest, you will not be judged on the song.

Keith Richards said if it wasn't for the fuzz box he used on satisfaction, the song would have been a flop. Sound is huge.

The only way to really judge the SONG, is if everybody is limited to guitar vocal, or piano vocal, and nothing else

Some songs are all melody and lyric, some songs are all track, some are combos.

Anyway, you won't win this contest or other public contest without, not just a solid recording, but a great recording, and not just the recording, but the production and arrangement and performances.









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#1143521 - 08/04/18 09:07 AM Re: Songoftheyear.com Scam Back Again [Re: niteshift]  
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I'm going to start a songwriting contest. $50 to enter. First prize is publicity for your song in the form of the title painted on the side of the yacht whose purchase you will be financing. It will be prominently displayed at various key locations in the Caribbean and Mediterranean, where it is entirely possible that it will be spotted by publishers relaxing on their own yachts, leading to a major publishing deal.

No need to send the whole song. I'll be able to tell how great it is from the title.

#1143543 - 08/05/18 03:51 AM Re: Songoftheyear.com Scam Back Again [Re: niteshift]  
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Hey Gavin, spot on !

The deal with songoftheyear.com SCAM SCAM SCAM is that the whole site is totally bogus ! Down to the "judges" whose pictures they have spliced from the internet.

Add to that, the "winners" , whose songs are up, are without any contact information or verification.

I'm sure it is a take on ASCAP's song of the year, which is real. I tracked down their bogus ISP in Texas once, but it's probably well moved to a Caribbean Island by now.

If anyone finds these sods, whip them hard with every internet hack tool you have.

Notice there is no defence, which is what a legit person would do ? I wonder why ?

uncheers, niteshift


#1143544 - 08/05/18 04:19 AM Re: Songoftheyear.com Scam Back Again [Re: niteshift]  
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URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/
>>> Last update of whois database: 2018-08-05T09:14:45Z <<<

Hmm, a godaddy.com reg. Anyone know how to put in an official complaint for fraud ?

cheers, niteshift


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