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Hi, all:

So, I posted these lyrics to the L3 Forum over a year ago (wow, how time flies!). A shout out to Lisa Gundling and Douglas Murphy for some helpful suggestions. (I hope, Lisa and Doug, my change works better for you).

Anyway, this is my first dive into the BIAB software (well, first effort that has amounted to anything “listenable”—I’m still floundering with it). For those of you more well-versed in using the platform, I’d love any tips or suggestions you might have, hearing this, that I might want to focus on in future efforts. Just trying to do more than the guitar-vocals on songs I’ve posted to date, given my limited guitar and production skills.

Hope it's worth the listen, all!

Won't Be Hard to Say Goodbye

(V) You’ve been talking trash for hours
about how I’ve been wasting all your time;
how you’ve had enough of this,
you swear you’re gonna call it quits,
but I’m not changing any time.

(C) So if you can’t live this way forever,
then maybe take this as a sign.
If you’re so convinced I ain’t your darling prince,
then it won’t be hard to say goodbye.

(V) You keep waging all these battles,
when you know I’m not the fighting kind.
Then you swear that I’m insane,
while you bitch and you complain—
Well, I ain’t so crazy that I’m blind.

(C) So if you can’t live this way forever,
then I wonder why I even try.
If you’re so convinced I’m such a lunatic,
then it won’t be hard to say goodbye.

(B) You’d have me on the straight and narrow;
locked up tight with key and chains;
kept so tame I wouldn’t know my name
and I’d only have myself to blame.

(C) So if you can’t live this way forever,
then, baby, I’m happy to oblige.
If you’re so convinced I’m just some hopeless hick,
then it won’t be hard to say goodbye.
Yeah, if you’re so convinced then I’m so over this,
and it won’t be hard to say goodbye.

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Hi DJ.

A sad song but I enjoyed the powerful lyrics.
Your voice suits the song for sure.
Maybe give it a spin on the BIAB forum.
Get a few more comments.
Maybe the backing could use more RealTracks.
Enjoyed it as is though.

Cheers.

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This is a beautiful song Deej. Excellent all round and a really powerful sincere vocal.
I enjoyed the listen albeit a sad theme
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Morning, Deej:

Really enjoyed my listen. The vibe of the song is just about perfect and I always enjoy your really capable vocals. Life's choices sometimes bring young folks to the "boiling point" and the story line "nailed" the direction of the song. Best wishes for monetary success... 'cause you've already achieved artistic perfection. ----Dave

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Deej,

What a great song, and I was impressed with this very good melody. Nice vocal performance as well, you have a tone identity unique--and unique is always a good thing!

I'm not a BIAB expert, but I can tell you that you are off to a great start with that platform. I know Floyd Jane, Mike Z, or Vic A could give you some experienced tips on BIAB who "I believe" utilize this platform quite well--I'm sure there are others that I can't recall momentarily.

I really enjoyed this song--a great write IMO! ------------ You could also do what I do....."never say goodbye?" -- (a little joke)

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Man I just love the energy and confidence in your vocal delivery. Kind of reminds me of that crazy ass Billy Joel.
I really like the song’s overall sentiment and it’s short sweet and to the point.
Your style seems like it would go over well, live. Do you perform?

You can stick a fork in this one.

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NICE....

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Deej,

A very nice write.

Nice vocal recording. Has a "Bee Gees type" sound to it. Impressive.

You did a very good job for an initial BIAB effort. For this type song, you should get rid of all the part markers you've got in it - they cause all those drums rolls/flurries - this type song shouldn't have such a "busy" drummer. Leave an "A" part marker at the beginning of each verse and a "B" part marker at the beginning of each chorus (and either "A" or "B" on the beginning of the bridge). Take the rest out.

Your mix is very good.

Looking forward to hearing more...

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Excellent! Great lyric and love the simple straightforward melody. Your vocal is superb. I agree agree with Floyd that this has a Bee Gees feel to me, though very early Bee Gees (To Love Somebody, Massachusetts, etc.). To that end, some harmonies and backup vocals on this tune will really take it to the next level. I really enjoyed this tune a lot. Very well written.

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I listened all the way through. I wish I could come up with some helpful hints to make it better, but I can’t. Grate job.

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It has all the bones of a good song, Deej.

I agree with Floyd on the part markers. Too many of them interfering with the flow.
Needs a little something extra in the choruses too, like a held chord here and there.

Vic


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RichMac, Travis and Dave--really appreciate the listen and feedback.

Rich, both you and Floyd have suggested I check out the BIAB forum, and will do. I scanned it quickly and it looks like it has a ton of useful stuff. Appreciate the recommendation.

Travis, funny, but when I play it on guitar it never strikes me as a sad song--but I guess it is, particularly how this one came out sounding. You're not the only one to mention it.

Dave, money would be nice, but I'll settle for artistic perfection. It's a far more likely reality! smile

The best to all of you,

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Eddie,

Thanks so much for the listen. You've been such a great help to me on my other efforts, so really appreciate when you chime in. Not sure it's a great start, but considering my earlier tries to do something with it . . . well, it's progress. Already got a few good tips from Floyd and Vic (who knew about "markers"?).

And I wouldn't mind never saying goodbye . . . as long as she didn't kill me off in the end (also a little joke). smile

Best regards,

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Barry,

Thanks for stopping in and giving this one a spin. Glad you enjoyed it.

All the best,

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Nelson,

Always good to hear from you--thanks for the listen and kind feedback. As for your question as to whether I perform . . . um, no. Not sure I could do it, and I'm certainly not confident enough in my guitar skills to play live. I actually only started playing and singing for some close friends and family a couple of years back. But who knows, maybe someday. Never say never!

Kindest regards,

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Floyd,

Thanks much for the feedback. Actually I don't think there are any "markers" at all--I wasn't quite sure what you meant by that, so when back looking and think I found it--the "Song Form" menu, right? Messed around with it on this and another song I'm working on and I can see it makes a difference. Funny thing, I was looking all over for something where I could set up verses, choruses and such--couldn't find it. Now I have--appreciate the tip. Glad the mix worked.

And, wow, the Bee Gees--wouldn't have seen that one coming, but listening with your and Gocart's comment in mind, sure, I hear what your hearing. Nice call, that one.

All the best,

Deej

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Bob--appreciate your taking the time to listen and comment. No worries about the lack of suggestions. I'm just glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.

Gocart--thanks for giving this one a spin. I hear what you're saying on adding harmonies. I always struggle with the idea on first person songs, but I'm going to give a few listens more with the idea in mind and see where there might be a good opportunity for enhancement. Appreciate the suggestion and glad you liked the tune.

The best to you both,

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Vic,

Thanks much. See my response to Floyd above on the "part markers"--who knew (LOL)? Think it's going to be long journey figuring BIAB out, but will appreciate your suggestions along the way. Appreciate your taking the time to share your insights.

Best regards,

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I really like this type of song!

Your vocals have an attracting sound, that adds a unique quality--I'm not one to change words and production--I do tend to simplify ideas in a song more than you--but that's part of your style!

Write on!

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Deej, I liked this a lot. Really good melody here, same on the lyrics. Lot's of potential.

In V1, second line, I'd replace "about how I’ve been wasting all your time;" with " about how you're still in your prime". That will keep you from using "time" twice in the verse. Use as you want; no strings.

I'd repeat the sung hook in the verse for reinforcement.

Thanks for sharing.

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I like what you've done, lyrically and musically, Deej. I'm not a BIAB user so I can't help there but it sounds good to me.

Just a small thing, but in the second chorus, since it's all about her, maybe say,

"then I wonder why YOU even try"

I like how the last chorus switches it up from it not being hard to say goodbye for her to the singer. Well done!

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Loved everything about this. Your lyric beautifully stays the right side of bitterness, so what we have is bitter sweet, and your voice is great.

I might be completely insane, but how about if you added a bit of fiddle very softly in the background during the bridge and the last chorus. Not sure if it would work, but it's easy enough to try in BIAB..

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Lovely! Enjoyed that. Particularly the chord progressions, for example those around:
So if you can’t live this way forever,
then maybe take this as a sign.

very nice indeed!

I'm not a BIAB expert, but I have used it a little. I found it helpful for Bass lines, and for generating solos in instruments I can't play (though I usually need to edit them in midi afterwards). I tend not to use it for drums though. I prefer some of the grooves from MT Power Drums 2 (which is free to use). So you might try that or something else instead of the BIAB drums.

The lyrics have a raw honesty to them, and your vocal supports that really well.

Good song!

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Mackie,

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it--appreciate the listen and the feedback.

All the best,

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Ej,

Thanks for the listen and the suggestion. Yes, the use of "time" twice is not ideal, but the thing is, it says exactly what I want it to say--so, it's one of those compromises I'm willing to make. But your suggestion is a good thought, and I appreciate you're making it. Looks like I'll redo this at some point, so I'll keep your thought in mind.

Kind regards

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Ricki,

That is an excellent suggestion (replacing "why I even try" with "why you even try")--never actually thought of it, but it works so much better that way, and, I think, accentuates the switch you note at the end. Consider it done every time I play from here on out. Thanks for listening and thanks for the comment.

All the best,

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Gavin.

Appreciate your stopping in. You know, i actually fiddled with the idea of a fiddle--just couldn't find anything on BIAB that worked. Everything was more rhythm than melody. I only got the most basic version of BIAB, so maybe there are more options when and if I upgrade. If so, I'll definitely keep the thought in mind. Thanks for the listen and comment.

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Thanks, Owen. I'll have to check out MT Power Drums 2. I have to say the most difficult part of BIAB is finding percussion that works--they always seem a bit too much. But I agree, it really helps out on the bass, which I can't play for . . . trash. We'll see how much more I can make the platform work for me--I'm not very tech. I'll be sure to share what does. Appreciate the listen much.

Take care,

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Hello Deej,


I'll sum it up quick.....

THIS IS A CooL SONG.

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Calvin,

Thanks for the listen--I'm glad you enjoyed it.

All the best to you,

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Bump! It 's so good it needs more attention
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This is really pretty frickon excellent. I wonder about the Keith Moon drumming in the verses, not that it's not cool, but maybe works against the vibe. What was curious is u had those fills but when it came to the bridge, u didn't use any, not even a cymbal to start the new section. It may slip by the ear that that was a bridge....although Keith Moon use to do that all the time, but that was raucous rock.

Aside from that, the song and the vocals are great, nice melody. Enjoyed my listen.

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Travis,

Appreciate the "bump" and the additional compliment. It made my day to see that!

My sincere thanks to you!

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Fdemetrio,

Thanks for stopping in and giving this one a spin. Glad you liked it. Yeah, the drummer here's a little too amped up. My first attempt in BIAB and had no idea I could define sections. If and when I redo it, some of that should come out (or so I'm told). Appreciate your comments and feedback.

All the best,

Deej


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