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#1134435 - 01/05/18 01:24 AM Summer's End (Dave Rice song)  
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Hi folks,

https://soundcloud.com/michael-zaneski/summers-end

Dave asked if I could upload and post this for him and I'm happy to oblige. This was an enjoyable project and we're both happy with how it came out.

A good majority of the musical ideas came from Dave's worktape, as I liked the kind of Philip Glass arpeggio thing that was in there with more traditionally pop and classical motifs. I love how his lyrical phrases seem to follow the natural breath of the lines instead of a boxy thing. Dave suggested a vocal in the Jack Jones ballpark, and I'm a big Scott Walker fan, so I channeled him a bit and thought the vocal tone fit well.

The real challenge for me was getting the song to build in a way that felt like it was what the song needed. 'Arrangements' tell a kind of story along with the words and music, and to that end I put my best energy.

We hope you enjoy it.. smile

*************************************************************************************************************************************************************

Summers End

When Summer leaves join Autumn's show
and Winter sends her firstborn snow
thoughts of you come pouring in
that poolside dance
at Summer's end

A star-filled night so long ago
one final kiss I loved you so
how could you know
at Summer's end

We left for school in seperate towns
made it through our caps and gowns
but didn't meet again
'til Summer's end

- - - - - - - - -

I read your name from time to time
your wedding plans, that social climb
I nearly called then changed my mind
your invitation seemed unkind
at Summer's end

Our lives were spent in different ways
and I still think about those days
I thought our love would never end
but fate came drifting in
that Summer's end

- - - - - - - - -

While shadows fade on suburb lawns
Grand-children play like little fawns
love never ends and I pretend
we're only friends, only friends

I throw a kiss into the wind
and it's goodbye again
goodbye at Summer's end

- - - - - - - - - -

©2006 & 2017 Dave Rice
All Rights Reserved



Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 01/05/18 01:32 AM.

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Fortune depends on the tone of your voice

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from the album "Casanova" (1996)
#1134439 - 01/05/18 07:06 AM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Hi Dave and Mike.
This is a beauty! Loved the intro and what a voice Mike has!
Musically it reminded me of warm summer nights walking on the beach in the moonlight you know the sort of thing lol
Even though the story line is far removed from this.
Lovely poignant lyric and melody .
Jack Jones, Scott Walker yes
This I feel will be a big forum hit!
John

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#1134442 - 01/05/18 08:08 AM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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One for the album I think. Not my style but I can appreciate its prettiness.

Well sung, Mike.

Vic


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#1134448 - 01/05/18 08:54 AM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Dave / Mike,

Bravo!! I enjoyed this immensely!!
It could have easily been used on the Grease soundtrack, as is.
A classic topic with professional execution.

Keep up the great work guys.
Paul

#1134463 - 01/05/18 12:25 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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I hear this lyric differently to this version, the lyric is excellent

but I hear it in a style that would be great for Michael Buble, Sinatra and Harry Connick Junior


and consequently another Melody, but nothing wrong with this version , though


One of the most important principles of songwriting is to remember that a good song is a partnership of many different components, all working together to produce a satisfying musical experience.

In that respect, song components are either enhancing or compromising their combined effects.
#1134469 - 01/05/18 01:22 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Michael,

There is a lot of breadth to the story in this song and you have set the music to tell that story well, building it up and weaving in various textures masterfully. I could imagine a couple of different audiences for it.

One would be an international audience sharing the song with an accompanying video production via the web and social media. A video producer would have a lot to work with in the lyrics. It is an emotional story and the quality, variety, and universality of the lyrics that are maybe at a high school reading level would be a fun way for international audiences to enjoy a story set to music and at the same time advance their English language skills. It would also appeal in general to some people who are just very sentimental.

Another audience would be senior citizens who can identify with the journey portrayed. I could hear musicians such as myself performing this at senior centers and retirement communities alongside their Sinatra tunes and standards. It could also be easily picked up by the Hallmark channel as the featured song for one of their TV movies that are very popular in that demographic.

The main concern I have with the song is the time, which is probably no surprise to you smile It took me a while to find "1". While I thought that the time began with the acoustic guitar intro, on subsequent listens it seems that there is a distinct downbeat just before "thoughts of you come pouring in".

The added single beats here and there throw me as well. They even cause the percussion to turn the beat around, such as the hi-hat/ shaker just before and after "I nearly called and changed my mind" and the bass and snare at the 2nd "only friends". The effect is more pronounced to me at the slower tempo of this song. The instances of added two-beat measures I can more easily listen to since the back and forth sway as if one were slow dancing is not disturbed.

While the time comes across feeling haphazard to me personally, I know that you rely on the lyrics for rhythmic direction and perhaps this is simply a hallmark of your writing style that the listener has to accept. My level of compromise is more on the side of the music and the groove. An international audience may not even be phased by the added beats due to cultural music differences - it would be in interesting experiment to find out. However, seniors that grew up on the 32-bar song form have a different frame of reference. On a practical note, I'm wondering whether you have to program all the added beats into the conductor score of a DAW or if you just run the whole song in 1/4 time or something.

The production value is stellar as I am becoming accustomed to from tracks you produce! There is a nice contour to the opening arpeggios which does make them more of a Phillip Glass element - cool. I could hear a suspended symbol beginning the song. I love the celeste or whatever it is at 1:15. While I guess you are using a BIAB real track, I would never play a trumpet solo to this song with the "falls" it begins with. That's more of a Big Band element for an uptempo song. I think that a flugelhorn solo along the lines of the one in "Reminiscing" by the Little River Band would better suit this tune.

Thanks for sharing!

Maroon Corey

#1134471 - 01/05/18 01:29 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Hi Travis:

I was surprised to see that Mike had posted this for me earlier than I had anticipated. (He's on West Coast Time and I'm on "Tulsa Time"... LOL! ... so I thought it would show up on the MP3 board late this afternoon.) Wow! Your comments are much appreciated and thanks for taking time in your busy schedule of what seems to be an endless chain of really good Irish/Celtic songs. Other than our Welsh Heritage... we have another thing in-common now... and that would be where Mr. Zaneski comes into the lens of the camera. I never cease to be amazed at his talent and creativity. This song was recorded by me in December of 2006 and languished in my catalogue because I don't possess the musical/vocal chops to do it justice. In one "fell-swoop", Mike took it from a "2" rating (my system) to a "4.7" out of "5" rating. I've not written a five yet, LOL! There is always "hope!"

As always, best of luck with your creativity and music career.

All the best, ----Dave

#1134472 - 01/05/18 01:33 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Hi Vic:

Thank you for listening and taking time to comment. Your thoughts and your music are always very high on my Radar! I'm looking forward to your next "release."

Best regards and wishes for success with your music. ----Dave

#1134473 - 01/05/18 01:37 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Paul:

I'm most appreciative of your comments about "Summer's End." Zaneski is a magician in my eyes and ears... and he never fails to deliver on his demos of my songs. His arrangements in each genre song he has done for me have been "spot-on!"

Thanks for taking time to listen and share your thoughts. ----Dave

#1134475 - 01/05/18 01:45 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Cheyenne:

It really pleases me to know the lyric "sparked" a different vibe for you regarding the melody. Be grateful you didn't hear my miserable version... LOL! I never think of myself as a singer and try as best I could, I failed miserably on my version of "Summer's End." The melody Mike delivered (along with his captivating vocal) is pretty much the same as mine... but his arrangement is stunningly different. If you have "in-roads" into the management currently handling Buble's recording schedule... please inform him I would be delighted to hear what he might do with it. (The same holds true for Harry C. and I regret that Frank and Jack are no longer available!)

You have good ears and I appreciate your comments and listen.

Regards, ----Dave

#1134478 - 01/05/18 02:06 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Hi Maroon:

I've observed your commentaries on several of the songs here at the MP3 forum and was pleased to see your thoughts regarding "Summer's End." As I told Cheyenne in the note above, be grateful you did not hear my original version.

This song does emanate from the pen of a child of the 1930's whose audience is precisely identified by you as Senior Citizens. (I'm not offended if called an "Old Geezer"... LOL!) Obviously, you have the knowledge and training in "most things music" and I must truthfully explain that Zaneski is probably the only person here who has the talent and knowledge to comprehend most of your points. Please don't take my remarks as being "snarky!" Far from it, my Richmond friend. When someone takes as much time to comment as you do so eloquently, it certainly grabs my attention.

I'm also pleased if my work is appreciated by folks much younger than me. As I explained earlier (above) my version pales when compared to Mike's arrangement and vocal. I am not a "natural singer" and sometimes need to record a song dozens of times before I can at least get the "gist" of the song across in a presentable fashion. That is why I find Mike's services to be so valuable and affordable.

Thanks so much for listening and taking time to share your thoughts. I'm looking forward to hearing some of your work.

All the best, ----Dave

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Hi, Dave,

Glad to hear that my remarks were welcome and I can certainly identify with looking back at first drafts! Good to hear that you take full ownership of your era - it's a great one. I appreciate your remarks very much. Rest assured that my knowledge and any eloquence is not without very real limits!!

Not only do I appreciate your work (although I'm not exactly a spring chicken myself), but the song could appeal to people of all ages that are of a sentimental nature - you would be surprised! I really think that a domestic or international film school student would do well to make a music video out of your song as a project. It would be a learning experience for them and then you would have it to distribute via YouTube and Facebook. I can see it being subtitled in both English and various foreign languages as it spreads.

I can certainly appreciate the great feeling you get when you hear your "baby" come to life with the help of someone like Mike. And thanks for the prompt - I do hope to share a thing or two here at some point for feedback!

Kind Regards,

Maroon

#1134492 - 01/05/18 04:33 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Calvin:

So glad you dropped in for a listen. As always, thanks for your kind words. Hope your 2018 is moving along nicely for you.

All the best, ----Dave

#1134493 - 01/05/18 04:51 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Hi again, M_C:

As the "resident dinosaur" here at JPF... I must confess that I don't dabble in video, avoid Facebook and only use a cell phone for emergencies... if I remember to grab the darn thing when I leave the house... LOL! At my age, distractions prevent me from doing my best to write or record... or in most cases, re-record something I've listened to during the evening or wee hours... and decided "that won't play well in Sheboygan!" Old age is not for sissies... and even though my first thoughts before hopping out of the sack each day... seem to come from the mind of a twenty-something guy. The minute my feet touch the floor and I realize those days are gone forever... while old man Arthritis and his friend Sciatica bring me to earth quickly.

But we must struggle, attempt to create... and hope for that miracle. In my case, the miracle that someone with a massive following, such as Adele or Willie Nelson (you know what I mean) will decide to give a Geezer a break.

I like your thinking, though... about some wannabee film director creating something nice with some of my material. My goal has always been to have my songs recorded by someone with clout. It is in my DNA... coming from an era where Radio was the only available medium to a poor kid from Texarkana. It was free if commercials didn't become too much of a drag.

Thanks again for listening, commenting and replying. I don't think I've ever had the chance to say, "Welcome to JPF." Your presence is important to us and I know that Brian appreciates your participation. ----Dave

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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
Hi Vic:

Thank you for listening and taking time to comment. Your thoughts and your music are always very high on my Radar! I'm looking forward to your next "release."

Best regards and wishes for success with your music. ----Dave


Thanks Dave. I have one almost done so I'll be attacking you with it soon. :-)

Vic


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#1134505 - 01/05/18 07:44 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Thanks John, Vic, Paul, Cheyenne, Calvin, and Maroon

Cheyenne, I don't think the melody would need changing to make this a more Nelson Riddle kind of arrangement with a jazzier vocal; it just wasn't what Dave was looking for in this instance. It would be interesting though, cuz I associate those guys with more upbeat material than this.

Maroon, I hear you man! You are always so thoughtful and kind in your presentation. You could professionally critique, you are pretty awesome at it. smile

But I thought Dave's phrasing was about 95% percent organically "right" for this song. Now, in past songs that were more country and pop and such, I have "squared off" most of his phrases to accomodate the style of music, though few needed squaring off in those songs, but in this instance I felt like his phrasing, which was following the natural breath of the lines, was mostly perfect, and here's my reasoning.

Summer's End is a series of A sections one after the other with instrumental interludes in a few places. We can call the very last verse a B section or bridge.. Each A section follows the same pattern of tension and release, with a regular signpost, the tag line, occurring in four of the five verses/A sections. The tag line, in essence, serves to "ground" each verse, because the listener comes to know after three or four lines of increasing tension and a held note (in the line preceding the tag), that some variation on the tag line "(at, 'til, that) summer's end" will occur, and the listener comes to know that "end" will be on the "one" beat, so there's some anchoring withing each verse, for sure.

It's a pattern of tension and release, but it's a good kind of tension that keeps the listener in the moment with the vocal phrasing. It's telling me in every line where the "one" is because of the nature of pick-up notes and the way the tension builds and resolves in each verse. The song pretty much trains the listener to at least know that in each verse there's a place to feel grounded.

There are other ways that Dave's approach is organic. As the singer ages in V4, each line has taken to 5/4 time instead of 4/4 that comes in most of the pre-tag lines of the first three verses.

My early work on "Summer's End" was to deal with the phrasing and whether or not I should attempt to make 4/4 out of everything, and I even did create a couple versions that did that to hear how it sounded, and though everything was 4/4, the pauses, then, were in most cases too long or too short. Dave had it intuitively right, for the most part, in my opinion. He wrote a dramatic song that was using meter to exemplify and amplify that drama.

I knew, though, that several metrical changes in a song could be a tad divisive with listeners, but so would simplifying it in this case as his lyric pulls strongly towards the meters used in each line and verse, and I thought it a nice challenge (as I mentioned) to keep the tension building throughout the song, and Dave's metrical choices do keep the tension building, whereas 4/4ing most of it would have diffused that tension to a great extent..

I just think of Dave's piece as well as much of Wagner and much modern theatre music (and minimalist classics like Steve Reich's "Tehillim") as music that makes you "stay in the moment" and listen attentatively, cuz the vocal phrasing will teach you how to listen as you go.

Remember that music history is a series of "deviations from the norm" and that sometimes a composer gambles and goes with his gut and takes a road less travelled. I couldn't justify to myself, messing with Dave's meter too much in this song. I did simplify a couple things, but left the rest cuz (I felt) this way worked best. smile

Cheers,

Mike

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Would like to see the lyrics on soundcloud so I can follow along with the music while I am listening.

This is a very delicate and clever arrangement with a great dynamic build throughout.

There are some aspects of the swirling part in the middle that reminded me of Yes, which is a good thing. I liked the way you did not rest on your laurels at this point but found another way to build the end.

The vocal part where you went up high at the end was great.

Great song and lyrics and kudos to all involved. (Dave Rice: great lyrics.)

I can't think of any major suggestions because I think you achieved what you set out to do.

Good job.


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Thanks for the kind words regarding my song, "Summer's End"... David:

Sorry Mike's SoundCloud page did not include the lyrics... but Mike typed them on the introductory post of this thread. He is pretty darn special in my books and I've had him do eleven demos of my songs, to date. I usually resort to using his talents when I have exhausted all patience with my vocal inabilities... LOL. Getting old is not for sissies!

I agree with you on his resounding finish of the song.

Thanks again for taking time to listen. Glad you are here with us on JPF. ----Dave

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Dave and Michael,

Beautifully done—really all aspects of it. Great vocals, lyrics and production, all married well together. Particularly like how it builds into the finish. Fantastic work, both of you!

Regards,

Deej

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Thanks, Deej:

I appreciate your comments and taking time to listen. Mike is "the man" to go to when a song needs "that special touch." I am so proud of what he did for my song.

Regards, ----Dave

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Hi Dave & Mike,

This is something I can see on the stage. Definitely. From that intro and with the swirling music and great emotional effort telling this story it would be quite dramatic to see. I really enjoyed all parts of this song. The lyrics are so descriptive! These lines are wonderful:

While shadows fade on suburb lawns
Grand-children play like little fawns

Those lines say so much and leave such a visual impression. And I like how you put the hook at the end of each section.

The song sounds very grand...lovely melody and I especially enjoyed the harmonies and the way Mike sings “Goodbye” at the end there. Seems to send that sentiment off with the summer! Bittersweet story. Cool musical ending...perfectly fitting with how it all began.

Excellent work guys! smile

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Thanks for listening and actually comprehending the meaning of the song's story. It is bittersweet. The guy never "got the girl" yet continued to "love her from afar" even though he had married and had raised a family of his own. Men still tend to put women on pedestals!

I think Mike's ending is the icing on the cake but loved the way he "built" the song and added appropriate breaks to allow the listener to think and wrap emotions into the story-line. Then there is his vocal! He always does them so well and tends to "make the song his own."

You listened... and listened well... and I appreciate that so very much.

Regards, ----Dave

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Hey Dave/Mike,

This is a beautiful song. It for me has an almost heavenly or even ethereal feel for lack of a better word. I love the sentimental quality of these lyrics which will be relatable to many or at least empathized. I too felt "are these lyrics on beat" initially and more so with the first verse. I think partially after the intro, the listener is anticipating a more conventional vocal metering--but once you get the groove, you are okay! No question, it is fun and refreshing to deviate from the norm from time to time. I strive to have diversification with my music compositions.

Dave, what a beautiful piece of lyric writing. Mike you always deliver for your songwriters, nice production and performance!

steady-eddie

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Hi Eddie:

I read your comments and appreciate your encouragement. You always say things that writers can use to grow with in future efforts... and you listen with care. That means a great deal to me... and I know Mike will enjoy hearing your "take" on "Summer's End." He never disappoints me when he takes my songs and makes them better.

Thanks for taking time to listen and share your thoughts. ----Dave

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Kristi:

I completely forgot to address my reply to you. Hopefully, you've already figured it out. If not it is the next response from me after your post. Sorry! Let's chalk it up to a tired mind at the end of a long day. Thanks again, ----Dave

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Lovely. Lovely Lovely. smile smile smile smile smile

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This is great! I think it's hard to write a song about a former love that isn't either self-serving or schmaltzy - but Dave pulled it off. And the music and performance matches the longing and resignation in the lyric, perfectly, imo.

You pulled out all the stops on this one, Mike grin

Scott

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Hey, Martin:

Thanks for listening and commenting. I hope your project is going smoothly and that Houston is in full recovery mode, although I suspect there are many still feeling the impact of Hurricane Harvey.

Happy New Year, ----Dave

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Hi Scott:

Loved your comment about the difficulty of writing anything about a former love that isn't self-serving or schmaltzy! Thanks especially for the part about pulling it off. Shoehorning a story of this nature into a three minute (more or less) song is the difficult part... and sometimes, it's best to lean on the imagination of amazingly bright people, like you, my talented friend.

Mike did "pull out all the stops." But in his case, what else is new? He really knocks himself out at his work and I am so proud of him.

Regards, ----Dave

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David, Deej, Kristi, Martin, and Scott..

Thanks for all the nice comments..

Dave makes my job easy with a great song like this. smile

Mike


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Dave,

Haha, honored to know the resident sage! Sounds like you are smart enough to avoid distraction that plagues us all. Hats off to you for continuing to create even as it becomes more and more challenging. And while I join your hope for that miracle, it's already stunning that a "child of the 30s" is able to pull off putting together a nice song and recording like this without the help of a studio/ label, etc. through connecting online, etc. Children and seniors both never cease to amaze me.

I'm glad the video ad idea appeals to you. It could be as simple as a handful of (gasp!) Craigslist ads away or a connection with a local university. I mean, hey, if a video gets watched even a few thousand times, that's kind of equivalent to local radio airplay. And with more views, folks start looking for where they can buy the song online, hopefully providing you a little revenue. If you go through BMI, ASCAP, etc., I would imagine you would even get a teeny tiny bit for each YouTube play, etc.

Speaking of Willie Nelson, I could hear him singing this in his own way with a guitar band. Sorry, though, I don't know him! wink Anyway, thanks very much for the warm welcome and I look forward to hearing more.

Maroon

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Mike,

Neat to hear what went into the meter choices. I hear what you are saying about the similarity between sections. In looking at the lyrics alone, I would personally see them as ABBAABC - kind of a modified Rondo. When I listen to the harmonic structure of your recording, though, I hear it slightly different as ABBABBC. No qualms there, just interesting.

It certainly does create tension and then a momentary release when the words summer's end ground each phrase. I guess it is just that I am not used to this type of non-conventional tension in this setting of a slow, easy listening-style song. That doesn't mean that it's bad, I think it's just a bit too far of a departure for my own personal taste. I wonder if people would be able to sing or hum along with the song, although that may or may not be a goal.

Some of my feelings may stem from the thought that I would find it a bit difficult to perform this song without either a lot of practice or having to read the sheet music each time. Perhaps the natural cadence of the lyrics would prove that notion wrong. Maybe it wouldn't be too different than trying to learn the disjointed melody in Chick Corea's "Spain", although I think the faster tempo there makes a difference.

I do think the concept of moving into a different meter to represent aging is very interesting. It almost makes me want to write a song whose meters lengthen throughout the entire song. There are probably a few art songs that do exactly that, but none come to mind. I had never heard of "Tehillim" - cool piece. I wrote a short "Gloria" in college with some mixed and varying meter - not nearly as involved, though.

I saw a quote recently that reminds me of your road less traveled comment (not Walt Whitman either), but I can't recall it offhand. Definitely some truth to that sentiment. I know you would agree that one of my musical heroes Miles Davis did a lot of that!

Maroon

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Sweet ballad that just oozes nostalgia.

The vocals were very nice, and I especially liked the harmonies. Very tasteful use of effects there, bud!

The mix sounds excellent, and the trumpet solo was a nice touch at the end. The percussion is tastefully done but I would have loved that last minute or so if the drums were a bit more impactful and 'bigger' sounding to really bring this song home.

Great use of dynamics by the way, and the arrangement is stellar.

Excellent song and production, guys.

Peace,
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Eddie,

I meant to thank you in a seperate post (last night) for your vote of confidence then completely forgot! Just know that your comments made my day, and I think the world of you both as a musician and person. smile

Maroon,

Thanks for your additional thoughts. Tehillim is one of my favorite pieces of music It's freely metered but still very propulsive and stimulating. Listen to the ECM New Series recording (Reich's band and direction) if you are faced with multiple choices..

TC..you devil you..you snuck that in while I was writing! Thanks for the positive thoughts. Yes, sometimes I let the genre dictate the drum levels rather than my heart..

Mike

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#1134719 - 01/08/18 08:29 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Hi TC:

Thanks for taking time to listen... and to listen with well-trained "ears." If money were no object, I would send Mike another check and have him do some experiments per your suggestions. LOL! That said, I believe I got my money's worth... tenfold! Mike is pretty darn special.

I appreciate your thoughts and ideas. Gives me ammunition for my next write in this general direction!

All the best, ----Dave

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Hey Maroon:

Miles Davis sure gets my attention. Not that big of a fan of Chic Corea but I doubt he worries much about it... LOL! Reading the "back and forth" between you and Mr. "Z" is almost as deep as a visit to Julliard. I walked past it once in Manhattan... if that counts?

Thanks again for your ideas about ways to increase my income... but at my age, it would arrive too late and not often enough to matter. Let no one say that you lack a vivid imagination... the thought of Willie Nelson singing "Summer's End" is certainly beyond mine... but I never thought I would hear him do a song with Julio Iglesias (sp?)... and that turned out pretty spiffy for both of them.

Regards, ----Dave

#1134769 - 01/09/18 09:04 PM Re: Summer's End (Dave Rice song) [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Another winner, Dave and Mike. I was a little thrown by what I think you're calling the lyrical phrasing? It does force you to pay closer attention because the song isn't following our preconceived notions of where/how a song ought to go. Not a bad thing but I'm glad you put a warning label on it...I hate listening without a net! smile Excellent vocals and production as well. Nicely done!

Ricki

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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
...Julliard. I walked past it once in Manhattan... if that counts?


Don't worry, that's as close as I've gotten!

And yeah, "To All the Girls I've Loved Before" - that seemed to be kind of a harbinger of crossover duets. Always loved Sinatra's duets albums.

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Hi Ricki:

Mike is pretty good about pasting on Warning Labels... LOL! Thanks for listening and commenting. You know how much I value your opinion. Looking forward to your next song post.

Regards, ----Dave

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"Morning, Maroon:"

Crossover albums were "all the rage" for a while. Eventually, the merry go 'round will pass this way again... and the cycle will re-start for the music world. LOL! Hope you are having a great day. ----Dave

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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
Kristi:

I completely forgot to address my reply to you. Hopefully, you've already figured it out. If not it is the next response from me after your post. Sorry! Let's chalk it up to a tired mind at the end of a long day. Thanks again, ----Dave


Hi again Dave,

Thanks for making sure I wasn't confused! I did figure it out, yes. smile And I'm glad to know your intention for the story line was what I took away from listening.

Kristi


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Good song, good lyrics, well done guys! That Philip Glass arpeggio thing works well. Love the instrumental parts. Cheyenne mentioned a Frank Sinatra rendition. Yep, that would work. Though I'd go the Tony Bennett route.

Best, John smile

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Hi John:

Thanks for listening and commenting. Hmmm.... Tony Bennett is still alive and kicking... barely older than me and Willie Nelson. I'd love to hear his rendition... but only said "Hi" to him once, years ago at the Admiral's Club in San Francisco sitting at a table with Jerry Stiller and wife, Anne Meara.

Regards, ----Dave

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I really liked the song guys.
Dave you wrote a wonderful lyric ...Congratulations..
I would have enjoyed a try at this but Mike did a fine job.

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Thanks, Barry:

Glad you like the lyric. Mike's vocal improved my melody a great deal and his arrangements are always first class. Thanks for giving it a "spin" my friend. ----Dave

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Hi Ricki, John, and Barry..

Thanks fo the nice comments.

I easily connect with this and other sad love songs of Dave's, and the music he creates for them could not feel more spot on.. smile

Mike

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Wait a minute... Mr. "Z":

I know I've written at least six "happy songs"... LOL! Your kind words and amazing talent are always appreciated.

----Dave

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Hi Dave

My replies on PM aren't showing unless box is full?
Let me know if you're getting them
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Hi John:

So far, your replies are coming in Loud and Clear. I think it may be a problem on my computer and WP set-up. Just sent you a PM in reply.

----Dave

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