Who's Online Now
23 registered members (Alek, Gavin Sinclair, Dave Rice, couchgrouch, 9ne, Douglas Murphy, Fdemetrio, Colin Ward, Everett Adams, 4 invisible), and 266 guests, and
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box
Member Spotlight
nightengale
nightengale
Eugene, Or USA
Posts: 3,965
Joined: March 2009
Show All Member Profiles 
What's Going On
I Remember Autumn
by Dave Rice. 07/16/18 11:51 PM
Five Hundred Miles [Cover]
by RainyDayMan. 07/16/18 10:48 PM
I Can't Stand Still
by RainyDayMan. 07/16/18 10:39 PM
How Many Writers Do You Need...AND why
by Dave Rice. 07/16/18 08:00 PM
Many Years Ago
by Douglas Murphy. 07/16/18 07:43 PM
Last Place I Looked
by Douglas Murphy. 07/16/18 07:32 PM
An Innocent Man
by RainyDayMan. 07/16/18 06:18 PM
Smoke And Mirrors
by floyd jane. 07/16/18 04:28 PM
NEW MEMBERS CHECK HERE
by Liburan_Lombok. 07/16/18 12:32 AM
Interesting post on Witchita Lineman
by Liburan_Lombok. 07/16/18 12:28 AM
SWEET ROSA LEA Mackie Humphries
by Mackie H.. 07/16/18 12:16 AM
Summer
by DMsoundz. 07/15/18 09:45 PM
My Name Is Death
by Calvin. 07/15/18 02:18 PM
Irish Girl 63
by Gavin Sinclair. 07/15/18 09:44 AM
Far From My One True Love
by Ricki E. Bellos. 07/15/18 09:15 AM
How To Cover A Dylan Song
by Colin Ward. 07/15/18 06:51 AM
SONG TONE
by R&M. 07/15/18 01:34 AM
Always needed: Good male country singer.
by Douglas Murphy. 07/14/18 05:50 PM
BACK TO AULD LANG SYNE
by Vicarn. 07/14/18 12:11 PM
Hometown Refugee
by Janice & Bud. 07/14/18 11:55 AM
Amazing Grace [Cover]
by Douglas Murphy. 07/14/18 10:46 AM
Puff The Magic Dragon
by Douglas Murphy. 07/14/18 10:21 AM
How Many Writers Do You Need...
by Roy Cooper. 07/14/18 08:41 AM
Daltrey says Rock is Dead.....
by R&M. 07/13/18 04:35 PM
Rockin Dylan
by Fdemetrio. 07/13/18 10:02 AM
Love's Gonna Get Us All
by Marvin Adcock. 07/13/18 06:18 AM
Who's Gonna Play Left Field
by Calvin. 07/13/18 05:13 AM
Songoftheyear.com Scam Back Again
by Fdemetrio. 07/12/18 11:07 AM
New CD from Colin's band, Rosewood Creek
by Colin Ward. 07/11/18 02:13 PM
Boss' Childhood Home
by Fdemetrio. 07/11/18 12:41 PM
Top Posters(All Time)
Calvin 19,521
Travis david 10,928
Kevin Emmrich 10,539
Jean Bullock 10,330
Kaley Willow 10,240
Two Singers 9,571
Joice Marie 9,186
Mackie H. 8,834
glynda 8,574
Mike Dunbar 8,574
Tricia Baker 8,318
Colin Ward 7,893
Corey 7,357
couchgrouch 7,326
Dave Rice 6,737
Wyman Lloyd 6,578
Mark Kaufman 6,434
Joe Wrabek 6,402
ben willis 6,092
Lynn Orloff 5,788
Louis 5,725
Vicarn 5,684
Linda Sings 5,604
niteshift 5,390
KimberlyinNC 5,210
Derek Hines 4,893
DonnaMarilyn 4,618
Blake Hill 4,528
Neil Cotton 4,365
Bob Cushing 4,351
Bill Osofsky 4,199
Cindy Miller 4,178
Tom Shea 4,173
TamsNumber4 4,029
Roy Cooper 3,999
nightengale 3,965
Caroline 3,865
Kolstad 3,782
Dan Sullivan 3,710
MFB III 3,687
Dottie 3,427
joewatt 3,411
beechnut79 3,381
Bill Cooper 3,279
John Hoffman 3,199
E Swartz 3,133
Skip Johnson 3,027
Pam Hurley 3,007
Terry G 3,005
PopTodd 2,885
Harriet Ames 2,869
Nigel Quin 2,806
MidniteBob 2,706
Nelson 2,562
Tom Tracy 2,558
Polly Hager 2,526
Jerry Jakala 2,524
Al Alvarez 2,499
Eric Thome 2,448
Hummingbird 2,401
Stan Loh 2,263
Sam Wilson 2,241
Judy Hollier 2,232
Erica Ellis 2,202
Wendy D 2,182
TrumanCoyote 2,096
Marty Helly 2,012
DukeWill 1,984
floyd jane 1,943
Clint Anglin 1,904
cindyrella 1,888
David Wright 1,866
maccharles 1,858
Clairejeanne 1,851
Cindy LaRosa 1,824
Ronald Boyt 1,675
Iggy 1,626
Noel Downs 1,620
Rick Heenan 1,577
Cal 1,574
Jack Swain 1,554
Pete Larsen 1,537
Ann Tygart 1,529
Tom Breshers 1,487
RogerS 1,461
Janice & Bud 1,459
Tom Franz 1,452
Ralph Blight 1,440
Chuck Crowe 1,435
Kenneth Cade 1,429
Rick Norton 1,428
bholt 1,411
Letha Allen 1,406
in2piano 1,404
Stan Simons 1,402
mattbanx 1,384
Jen Shaner 1,373
Charlie Wong 1,347
GocartMoz 1,341
KevinP 1,324
Vondelle 1,316
Tom W. 1,313
Jan Petter 1,301
scottandrew 1,292
DakLander 1,265
Ian Ferrin 1,230
PeteG 1,228
Glen King 1,212
IdeaGuy 1,209
AaronAuthier 1,177
Diane Ewing 1,158
summeoyo 1,085
Gerry 1,084
joro 1,077
BobbyJoe 1,075
S.DEE 1,040
yann 1,037
Tony A 1,016
lane1777 1,013
Martin Lide 1,003
argo 986
peaden 984
Wolvman 960
IronKnee 930
Jak Kelly 912
krtinberg 890
Drifter 886
Petra 883
RJC 845
Brenda152 840
Nadia 827
Juan 797
TKO 784
frahmes 781
teletwang 762
90 dB 745
tbryson 737
Andy K 734
Andy Kemp 733
ant 732
Jackie444 722
3daveyO3 704
Dayson 703
Dixie 701
9ne 698
Joy Boy 695
Knute 686
Lee Arten 678
Deej56 655
Katziis 652
R.T.MOORE 638
quality 637
CG King 622
douglas 621
Mel 614
NaomiSue 601
Pat Hardy 599
Irwin 589
Shandy 589
Ria 587
TAMERA64 583
qbaum 570
nitepiano 565
pRISCILLA 556
Tink2 553
musica 539
Moosesong 530
deanbell 528
RobertK 527
BonzaiWag 523
Roderic 522
BB Wilbur 511
goodfolks 499
Zeek 487
Fdemetrio 487
Stu 486
Steve P. 481
R&M 463
KathyW 462
allenb 459
MaxG 458
Philjo 454
fanito 448
trush48 448
dmk 442
arealrush 437
DGR 436
avweek 435
Stephen D 433
Emmy 431
Rob L 426
marquez 422
kit 419
Softkrome 417
kyrksongs 415
RRon 408
Laura G. 407
VNORTH 407
Debra 407
eb 406
cuebald 399
EdPerrone 399
Dannyk1 395
Hobart 395
Davyboy49 393
Smile 389
GJShades 387
Ezt 384
tone 380
Marla 380
Cecilee 379
iggyiggy 378
coalminer 377
java 374
spidey 371
sweetsong 370
danny 367
Jim Ryan 360
papaG 353
Alek 352
Z - man 350
John K 348
JamesDF5 347
Jaden 344
ddreuter 341
TheBaz 340
Steggy 339
leif 339
tonedeaf 336
rickwork 334
Eddie Ray 332
Johnboy 328
Bob Lever 328
Helicon1 327
lucian 326
Muskie 321
kc 319
Z. Mulls 318
ptondreau 313
ONOFFON 312
Chris B. 310
trush 304
ed323 297
Ellen M 293
lizzorn 291
nicnac49 290
pomeranj 289
Char 286
ktunes 285
mastrose 280
Register Today!
Welcome to the Just Plain Folks forums! You are currently viewing our forums as a Guest which gives you limited access to most of our discussions and to other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post and respond to topics, communicate privately with our users (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free; so please join our community today!
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#1134789 - 01/10/18 12:33 PM Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
I feel that if WE are not our own greatest Fan we ought to quit....

#1134791 - 01/10/18 01:24 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,003
Ray E. Strode Online content
Top 30 Poster
Ray E. Strode  Online Content
Top 30 Poster

Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,003
Brunswick, Ga. USA
Uh, Well,
Several years ago a guy on here went to the Web Site and gave me a thumbs up on all of my songs, so I'm not sure. I have also had requests for more songs on some of my submissions but not lately. So who knows.


Ray E. Strode
#1134792 - 01/10/18 01:39 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 487
Fdemetrio Online content
Top 500 Poster
Fdemetrio  Online Content
Top 500 Poster

Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 487
Gotta love Ray's responses.

I agree Barry but I think that's automatic. I haven't met anyone who wrote something who didn't think it was good, but then that can impede you too. If your great by default, why bother trying to get better.?

I think you do have to be your own advocate, your own agent, your own salesman, your own best friend, but music....it's really up to other people whether your music is appreciated or not. But it is up to you whether your music makes you happy or not.

Hey I got good songs....naw chit?...

#1134793 - 01/10/18 01:42 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 302
RonnieDean Offline
Top 500 Poster
RonnieDean  Offline
Top 500 Poster

Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 302
Keystone, CO USA
Oh you have to be.

It'll show otherwise. And if it shows, you're done.
And we can't have that. :-)

Last edited by RonnieDean; 01/10/18 01:45 PM.
#1134801 - 01/10/18 04:02 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: RonnieDean]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
I don't mean a cheerleader to me but I am a Barry Butler Fan and always have been. I listen to my over 400 songs from time to time and I'm amazed at how fresh and great that sound..lol I am bewildered why more don't feel the I do...lol

#1134802 - 01/10/18 04:10 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 18,506
Brian Austin Whitney Offline
Brian Austin Whitney  Offline


Top 10 Poster

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 18,506
Indianapolis, IN USA
The greatest cure for thinking too highly of your own songs is to get a chance to sit in a room with a number of people (more than 5) with no connection to you of any kind and watch their faces and reactions to your song(s) as they play. Even tougher is to have it done in a room of 800 or more who are then going to vote on your song publicly raising their hands on the score/value of your song en masse when they have heard enough and after if it is good enough. When that happens, you will hear every flaw in your own work you had ever failed to hear (and possibly invent some that aren't there) in excruciating slow motion.... it isn't pretty but it sure is a wake up call.

I've seen this repeated many times. In addition, I have submitted songs (not of my own creation in this case, but songs which I had personally championed) and I heard brand new weaknesses that glared at me from the first moment in depressing detail. It happens pretty much to everyone with only a few exceptions. It's a brutal lesson.


Brian Austin Whitney
Founder
Just Plain Folks
jpfolkspro@aol.com
Skype: Brian Austin Whitney
Facebook: www.facebook.com/justplainfolks

"Don't sit around and wait for success to come to you... it doesn't know the way." -Brian Austin Whitney

"It's easier to be the bigger man when you actually are..."

[Linked Image]
#1134804 - 01/10/18 04:34 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
Nobody seems to be answering my question of understanding it.....I'm not talking about if anybody likes our songs. But are you still a fan of you after many years. If I didn't like my songs or me singing them I couldn't do this....so of course everybody has a different opinion but has your opinion of YOU changed or are you still a fan of what you are doing?

#1134806 - 01/10/18 05:35 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,064
Johnny Daubert Offline
Top 25 Poster
Johnny Daubert  Offline
Top 25 Poster

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,064
New Jersey, USA
I am happy that I seemingly improved in every aspect of what I do. I am NOT happy with the seemingly bad business decisions, or miscalculating, or assuming this or that.

I have gotten to know myself fully, which I would say I am not a big fan of how I mainly focused on being creative and clever, rather than also being business savvy and smart. about WHAT to write, and as to WHY. (The business of it ALL).

But, I am still a fan of how I can create and play many instruments, (sounds on keys, playing guitar/bass, and playing real drums). Mainly because doing all of that is FUN! I have always been the biggest fan of having FUN! Is mostly why I never sweated the business end of things.

My biggest fan however is not me, it is my family, especially Tracy, Jeremy, (my OLDER kids), my wife, Cindy, my sister, Joan, and sometimes, my grandkids, (when they get off their phones and Xboxes!

They think I should have been on the Wheaties Box for music!


Actually a Member Since 1996 or 97 (Number One Hundred Something).
Songnado I and II:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=322686





#1134808 - 01/10/18 06:03 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,681
Ricki E. Bellos Offline
Top 40 Poster
Ricki E. Bellos  Offline
Top 40 Poster

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,681
Wisconsin
Absolutely!...and some days I think I'm my ONLY fan! grin

#1134812 - 01/10/18 06:21 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Johnny Daubert]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
My wife doesn't even know my songs exist. She sort of just dismisses me and is busy doing her own stuff. I think I may have 3 Fans on facebook that likes my songs and me but that's about it. Oh Yeah ME makes four....lol

#1134820 - 01/10/18 08:34 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,737
Dave Rice Online content
Top 40 Poster
Dave Rice  Online Content
Top 40 Poster

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,737
Texas
Hey Barry:

Three fans are better than a big fat zero! To be mortifyingly truthful... yes, I suppose each of us tend to be our own number one fans. But I do my best to be humble and polite. I know Ricki's wrong, though. She has several fans including me... and Johnny D. really is beginning to make that climb. Interesting topic, my friend. ----Dave

#1134822 - 01/10/18 08:47 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Dave Rice]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
LOL

#1134829 - 01/11/18 02:50 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Ricki E. Bellos]  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,064
Johnny Daubert Offline
Top 25 Poster
Johnny Daubert  Offline
Top 25 Poster

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,064
New Jersey, USA
Originally Posted by Ricki E. Bellos
Absolutely!...and some days I think I'm my ONLY fan! grin


NO way, Ricki! I and many others of course admire your writing. I know I was so inspired hearing your demos for Sub and me to put our take on it. Thanks again for those opportunities to work on your songs.

I am a BIG fan,

John


Actually a Member Since 1996 or 97 (Number One Hundred Something).
Songnado I and II:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=322686





#1134838 - 01/11/18 09:53 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,408
Everett Adams Online content
Top 40 Poster
Everett Adams  Online Content
Top 40 Poster

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 6,408
,NL Canada
I'm my own worst critic. I wrote for years and would not perform them any where. I don't like my singing voice and I am a poor guitar player compared to some. I believe I am a decent wordsmith but that was that, and I managed to come up with tunes to what I wrote. But others could take what I wrote and make them come alive, so I guess I'd never make it as a singer songwriter, but that's ok because I'm a bit shy of performing in public anyway. I manage to sing in church once in a while but am not comfortable doing so. Even though I've been told that they like my voice, I feel they are just being polite. I hear good singers sing and wish I could sing like them, but that is not my gift. Of course I've heard others sing and wonder why they do, but some of them actually get a following and make a career out of it.

Not being a singer certainly handicaps me as a writer, I depend on others to showcase my songs and I have to pay for demos to pitch them. There are a few people that are good at singing, writing and playing an instrument, they are triply blest.

#1134841 - 01/11/18 11:30 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,858
maccharles Online content
Top 200 Poster
maccharles  Online Content
Top 200 Poster

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,858
Absolutely not, I tend to tear my work to shreds everytime when close to it. After a bit of time and distance, I see/hear it more clearly.....and usually it comes across as mediocre to me....and I'm always comparing what I do to my heroes, making me work harder and always falling short somehow.

#1134844 - 01/11/18 12:30 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 487
Fdemetrio Online content
Top 500 Poster
Fdemetrio  Online Content
Top 500 Poster

Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 487
Yeah I'm with Mac. I think if you get to a point where you can actually tell if your own stuff is not very good, that's the point where you become a good songwriter...guess it applies to muscianship too. That word ME, is very powerful, lol

i have shoeboxes full of cassette tapes with snippets of stuff I began writing, and didn't want to lose. Thought they were great at the time, and it only takes a day or two before I realized, oh well, on to the next song.

Musicians can drive themselves crazy striving for perfection too, it may not be attainable.


Last edited by Fdemetrio; 01/11/18 12:32 PM.
#1134847 - 01/11/18 01:12 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,681
Ricki E. Bellos Offline
Top 40 Poster
Ricki E. Bellos  Offline
Top 40 Poster

Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 6,681
Wisconsin
Thanks guys, that's sweet of you to say. smile I didn't take Barry's question to mean did we think we were the greatest thing since sliced bread. I took it as whether we believed in ourselves and thought we were striving to be the best songwriter we could be. Obviously, it's unlikely any of us are actually THE best, but we do the best we can. We can't ever stop trying to outwrite ourselves with every new song but that shouldn't stop us from showing ourselves a little love and compassion. It's a lonely undertaking, this writing thing. And if we don't pamper ourselves and bolster our fragile egos now and then, who will?

#1134848 - 01/11/18 01:41 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,626
Iggy Offline
Top 200 Poster
Iggy  Offline
Top 200 Poster

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,626
Manheim, PA
Yes! I am my biggest fan. If you don’t believe in yourself, then who will? I am passionate about every song I write and think my songs are pretty good. (How’s that for confidence?) Listening to my early songs, my only nit has been production and playing. Over the years you can hear the improvements as I learned the craft.

I missed the music success boat only because I lacked the courage to pursue music 100% of the time. Family, business, and life in general always jumped in front of music. Ironically the family, business and life was what was influencing and shaping my music. I wrote some of my “best stuff” when faced with life’s challenges.

So it is what it is and was what it was. I’m happy. Life has been good.

#1134849 - 01/11/18 02:55 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 487
Fdemetrio Online content
Top 500 Poster
Fdemetrio  Online Content
Top 500 Poster

Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 487
Well, I guess it comes down to what your goals are. If your trying for commercial success, then the , I'm just happy being me, thing doesn't work.

If you write songs, because you don't like gardening, then it makes no difference at all if your stuff is good or not, it's what you do.

I suppose it's a bit of safe haven, not trying for success, that way rejection never enters the picture, and you can write 9 verses and no chorus if you want. Nobody can say you stink if you aren't asking anybody to listen...err or charging.

It's kind of like meeting your favorite musical or sports hero, or whatever, I always feel like I wouldn't want to, because what if that person treated you like garbage, you would hate them, and your whole reason for picking up a guitar in the first place was because of them, now what?

I read in Phil Collins book that he met Paul Macca, and Paul belittled him for telling him how much he was a fan. He said he will never mention Paul's name ever again, and it really hurt him.

Sometimes it better to leave your songs in soundclick, they do no harm that way!

Last edited by Fdemetrio; 01/11/18 02:57 PM.
#1134864 - 01/11/18 08:10 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,737
Dave Rice Online content
Top 40 Poster
Dave Rice  Online Content
Top 40 Poster

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,737
Texas
I don't know how I missed Mac's response to this thread.

If anyone here should be his own best fan... he's it! From his post, it is obvious that he is passionate about his music but when all is said and done... the "product"... in this case Music... is always first class on just about everything he does. (At least those I've heard.)

I spend hours listening to my own songs as a way of being my own best/worst critic. So far, I've not achieved a perfect song and probably never will... but I'll keep trying. I think I've probably been "an audience of one" for most of my time dabbling in trying to write songs. Mac does not suffer from this problem and eventually, he will escape JPF and "hit the big time!"

Almost all of us will be so proud for him when that happens. ----Dave

#1134878 - 01/12/18 12:06 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: maccharles]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
Hey Mac I'm just the opposite. The words and music all come to me in a day or two and then I sing it and that's it......I don't like perfection and for me chasing it is a fools errand...lol I never look back or change anything.

#1134880 - 01/12/18 12:09 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: maccharles]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
I use do compare myself with my favorites but eventually somehow found me and I just stayed there. I didn't want to another this or that I wanted to just be me. I get a lot of comments that say they new my voice immediately new it was a Barry Butler Song.....That is what I strive to. I can never be anything like all those amazing singer songwriters so I just try to be me....Most of them are a one of a kind and sound and write like no other.

#1134882 - 01/12/18 12:12 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Ricki E. Bellos]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
I don't believe there are any best. Everybody is like a snowflake. I hate singing and award shows because art is subjective and they are all unique...They are just popularity shows....Ever artist is unique and should be treated like they are. My wife likes a song and I hate it...lol

#1134884 - 01/12/18 12:16 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Fdemetrio]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
I don't get a lot of negative comments but if I do and go to my youtube page and play that song and always sounds great to me. I never get tired of listening to me sing my songs and for the life of me I don't know what others don't...But what the hell I'm My Biggest Fan....lol

#1134885 - 01/12/18 12:17 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Dave Rice]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
I listen to my songs for enjoyment and always with the ear phones....I never even think of how I could tweak this or that....

#1134887 - 01/12/18 12:46 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Ricki E. Bellos]  
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 481
TC Perkins Offline
Top 500 Poster
TC Perkins  Offline
Top 500 Poster

Joined: May 2015
Posts: 481
Virginia
Originally Posted by Ricki E. Bellos
Absolutely!...and some days I think I'm my ONLY fan! grin


I feel the same way! +3

I remember fans from the olden days; these days I just do the songs for their own sake - I don't care about fans, fame, money, any of that.

But to answer your question, I suppose I am a fan most days. Other days, I am my biggest critic.

--TC


If it has strings I will find a way to play it!

You can hear my tunes at https://soundcloud.com/tc-gypsy
#1134888 - 01/12/18 01:04 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: TC Perkins]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
I stay nice to me...Plenty of other life things beat me up...

#1134898 - 01/12/18 10:41 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,858
maccharles Online content
Top 200 Poster
maccharles  Online Content
Top 200 Poster

Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,858
Holy cow Dave, where did all that come from?..ha haa! High praise indeed, jeez...thank you.

I've always admired your grasp of the retro as it has always been where I operate most days. smile

Barry, I don't mean I try to BE my heroes, I know I'm me and no matter what I do, it'll always sound like me, but I try to elevate what I write to that level by osmosis somehow, to study the craft and most times the results let me down.

Most of what I do that I actually like I attribute to happy accidents, the rest of it makes me cringe....it's only when others say good things about the work that I can try to hear it through their ears, shrug and accept that it must be okay and move on.

The good thing about that is I have come to understand my weaknesses and strengths, trying to chase the strengths and hopefully get a little better each time.

#1134901 - 01/12/18 11:34 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,737
Dave Rice Online content
Top 40 Poster
Dave Rice  Online Content
Top 40 Poster

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,737
Texas
Hi Mac:

Not trying to "blow smoke" in your direction. In all seriousness... you earned what little praise I sent you. I also think JPF has a "resident composer" who always migrates to the "shout box" and he really does not need us here at this website. I suspect he lives in a remote place and enjoys "talking" to other humans... much like I do. Schick is probably making a living from his obvious talent and I certainly envy that aspect of his musical career. Not for myself... I'm wishing I could drag in royalties, etc. from "covers" of my work by real artists for the benefit of the widow and orphans. I don't have the "right stuff" to ever make it as an entertainer/artist... being a songwriter has always been my objective.

You, on the other hand, possess that talent and stage presence. It can take you as far as you care to go. There is an awful price to be paid if you go there, though. Night after night... either "on stage" or on the tour-bus... or in the studio. No privacy... especially as you climb the ladder. The worst part... learning exactly who you can trust to handle your business and put something away for your future and eventual retirement. Thankfully, song-writing only requires having the right contacts... and some talent.

Never doubt that I wish you all the best. ----Dave

#1134903 - 01/12/18 11:41 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: maccharles]  
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 18,506
Brian Austin Whitney Offline
Brian Austin Whitney  Offline


Top 10 Poster

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 18,506
Indianapolis, IN USA
Originally Posted by maccharles
Absolutely not, I tend to tear my work to shreds everytime when close to it. After a bit of time and distance, I see/hear it more clearly.....and usually it comes across as mediocre to me....and I'm always comparing what I do to my heroes, making me work harder and always falling short somehow.


Your stuff is sometimes brilliant and nearly always commercially viable and widely likable. Overall I think your stuff as a whole rates am 8 out of 10 and some songs a 9+ out of 10. Lighten up on your work!


Brian Austin Whitney
Founder
Just Plain Folks
jpfolkspro@aol.com
Skype: Brian Austin Whitney
Facebook: www.facebook.com/justplainfolks

"Don't sit around and wait for success to come to you... it doesn't know the way." -Brian Austin Whitney

"It's easier to be the bigger man when you actually are..."

[Linked Image]
#1134916 - 01/12/18 08:24 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,737
Dave Rice Online content
Top 40 Poster
Dave Rice  Online Content
Top 40 Poster

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 6,737
Texas
See, Mac:

Even "The Boss" agrees! Any day now... "Contractsville!" I agree with his rating of your work... but don't ever forget where you began your career. We don't need any "uppity" JPF escapees! LOL! ----Dave

#1134929 - 01/13/18 09:17 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,684
Vicarn Offline
Top 50 Poster
Vicarn  Offline
Top 50 Poster

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,684
UK
Barry. You are right.
If you aren't a fan of yourself you wouldn't produce anything at all.

The old sayings go, "Never do a job you don't enjoy doing", and "always do what you think is right".
You may never be famous but you'll be a darn sight happier.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.
http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold
#1134932 - 01/13/18 09:57 AM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Vicarn]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Barry David Butler Offline
Top 100 Poster
Barry David Butler  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 3,259
Sebring, Florida USA
Doing the right think is always a good idea. It can be subjected but I follow how Jesus was and is. Love, Charity, Kindness, Mercy, Hopefulness, Give the Benefit of the doubt and so many others. About ten years ago I changed the story lines to my melodies and started writing mostly my own words. I had a God Moment right here in this little room at 3 AM. It made me realize that I had the talent to up my game and write about all those things and more above to Jesus and More. So mostly I gave up writing silly songs, funny songs, bar and girl songs, romantic songs and more to try and make a difference in people's lives. I still haven't been successful money wise but I have made a difference in people's lives. I post a lot of my songs on my facebook page and others. I sent a song about being different is beautiful and a video and I got some tear jerker comments. I wrote a song about kindness and about soldiers suicide and the like and Jesus songs and hopeful and healing songs and on and on. Some of the comments made me cry. Recently I have received amazing comments on a song about a guy went to a run down motel to kill himself and was saved because he found The King James Bible on the table next to his bed and went home to his kids and wife. Some unknown woman/girl wrote me an e mail that she listens to my song every morning because her Dad did kill himself. What I guess I'm trying to say as we all have our calling and have many different talents and most people don't use them. I'm so glad God spoke to me that night as it made my songs come alive to others and it makes it all worthwhile...Sorry for the speech...lol

#1134947 - 01/13/18 04:38 PM Re: Are You You're Biggest Fan.....I am...lol [Re: Barry David Butler]  
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 487
Fdemetrio Online content
Top 500 Poster
Fdemetrio  Online Content
Top 500 Poster

Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 487
I make music because Ive been doing it so long, it be like a messy divorce, with dozens of kids involved!

I think im good, I dont think im great. I think I could get lucky and capture something great if I persist, may have a few times

Im able to know if one of my songs suck before i let anyone hear it. I think thats important

Subjectvity is a powerful thing too though. Millions of people enjoy Mambo #5 and Gangum style


Support Just Plain Folks

We would like to keep the membership in Just Plain Folks FREE! Your donation helps support the many programs we offer including Road Trips and the Music Awards.


Membership
Join Just Plain Folks
to receive the free
JPNotes Newsletter!
*this is separate from
message board registration*

Newest Members
Liburan_Lombok, azmaster, Johnevans, aliciahess, anushkha
21056 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums116
Topics118,143
Posts1,113,286
Members21,056
Average Posts Daily30
Most Online1,506
Mar 16th, 2017
Just Plain Quotes
"Even if it appears you have lost, you can still win by maintaining your integrity, your civility and your humanity" -Brian Austin Whitney
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
Popular Topics(Views)
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0