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#1130105 - 08/23/17 01:41 PM A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic  
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Hi all.
This is a first for me. Never did a Christmas song before but Travis obviously thought it was time I did. Bah Humbug! smile
After playing around with his lyrics a bit I managed to come up with this.
Does it work?
Vic
I've now put a video together here:
https://youtu.be/KpF-BGEr5eA

https://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold/a-tumbleweed-christmas
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A Tumbleweed Christmas © 2017 John Vaughan & Vic Arnold
V
Everyone rushing to beat the snow fall
While I sit at my window just watching them all
And so when this old festive season holds sway
for a tumbleweed, Christmas is just one more day
V
The big stores are pumping out popular tunes
Well Bing, it looks like your dream will come true
Snowflakes are settling like soft memories
of a time before our love got lost in the freeze
C
The Salvation Army on the corner will play
For a tumbleweed, this day drifts by at slow pace
Christmas Eve's here but it doesn't feel right
Oh I wish I had you to hold on to tonight
V
I'm not one of those who just stares at his beer
I have a few friends. It's a shame they're not here.
We could all share this night but they've places to go
So I sit at my window and stare at the snow
Ch.
Br.
Just for a second in the blink of an eye
I swore she was here, darn it, now I could cry
Maybe a shadow but I don't think it's mine
Could tumbleweeds meet up on this Christmas time
Chorus

Last edited by Vicarn; 11/12/17 05:10 PM.

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#1130107 - 08/23/17 02:34 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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for a tumbleweed, Christmas is just one more day ...LOVE THIS LINE

#1130108 - 08/23/17 03:01 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks for the listen Neil
Travis


We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
#1130112 - 08/23/17 05:02 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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You guys are "on a roll" with this latest "offering:"

I listened and followed along the lyrics as Vic sang. I suppose if someone asked me to find the correct "genre pigeon-hole" for this one, "Christmas Blues" would be exactly where it lands. Too many clever lines to "highlight" but by the time we got to the end of the song, I was ready to go to the "fridge" and grab a "cold one." Mission accomplished, my friends. A bit sad... but so interesting... and it sure causes me to be grateful for not being alone at Christmas.

What's next, dynamic duo? Thanks for some super entertainment. ----Dave

#1130121 - 08/24/17 04:27 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hello John/Vic,


WoW.............a solid tune, loved it all.


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#1130123 - 08/24/17 08:25 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks once again for your thumbs up Dave and positive comments
Travis

Last edited by Travis david; 08/24/17 08:25 AM.

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#1130127 - 08/24/17 02:57 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks Neil.
Glad it works.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130128 - 08/24/17 02:58 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thank you for your generous comment, Dave.
I think you invented a new genre.

Vic


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If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130129 - 08/24/17 05:15 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Vic, I like the traditional sound here, and the lyric excellent. I also thought your voice was clear. congrats you have a christmas song! Lane


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#1130136 - 08/25/17 01:47 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Calvin
Thanks once again for your support
Travis


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#1130137 - 08/25/17 01:49 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks for your comments on the lyrics forum Lane and pleased you liked the completed song
Travis


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#1130139 - 08/25/17 08:38 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Calvin.
You can't beat a WoW!

Thank you.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130141 - 08/25/17 01:37 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thank you Lane.
I suppose being a Christmas song a little cliché is allowed, especially if it's just musically.
Glad you found the time to comment. It's soooo quiet here lately.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130153 - 08/27/17 04:58 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Yes those tweeks work Vic a little smoother!


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#1130155 - 08/27/17 12:01 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Well done guys...good call on the tempo and 3/4 time. Also, a different, fresh take on the Christmas theme. Cool!

Ricki

#1130166 - 08/27/17 03:06 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Cool Christmas tune Guys! Excellent recording/ production. August is a good month to peddle it. Good luck with it!

Best, John smile

#1130168 - 08/27/17 03:19 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks Ricky.Your input is always welcome
Travis


We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
#1130174 - 08/27/17 06:31 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks Ricki. One of the reasons I did it was because of the different approach lined up by Travis.
I'm glad it worked out.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130181 - 08/27/17 09:04 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks John.
Peddle away.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130182 - 08/27/17 09:07 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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What a blue Christmas! So well written, a sad story and love the Bing line!

Vic, I love that deep tone, my favorite! That triangle sound is perfect to keep it in the Christmas genre. Love the emotional spots in this (like darn it), you sung it so well and told the story. This works for me and love the ending where you wish everyone a Merry Christmas!

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#1130193 - 08/28/17 07:53 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks John ivery sent the song to a couple of people.
You never know!
Travis


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#1130205 - 08/28/17 03:10 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Tammy.
Thank you so much for such a nice comment.
The Bing line was all Travis's. He also suggested I change "Damn it" to "Darn it".

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130225 - 08/29/17 11:12 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Cheers Tammi.
Pleased you enjoyed this one
Travis

Last edited by Travis david; 08/29/17 11:12 AM.

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Vic/Travis,

What a nice "country waltz" tune. Perfect for a video guys--you have time before Christmas, but you'd better hurry! Enjoyed this'n!

steady-eddie.

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Nice chilled melodic music on this song, hope your Christmas is better this year.

#1130260 - 08/30/17 10:34 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks Eddie.
Whenever I make a video I'm always stumped for images. Most pro images are understandably expensive to purchase and still shots almost always look amateur.
If time allows and the snow falls I may shoot my own.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130272 - 08/30/17 07:24 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thank you Life Rise.
I hope so too.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130283 - 08/31/17 05:45 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Cheers Ed.Great idea mate.
Trav/John


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A great un-Christmas song you two. Excellent!

Douglas


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#1130317 - 09/01/17 11:45 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks Douglas.
I like the "Un-Christmas" part.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130497 - 09/07/17 09:10 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hell yes.... it works for me.
A wonderful performance/ production, Vic.

Warm and lovely write Travis.

Love the chorus..
"Christmas Eve's here but it doesn't feel right
Oh I wish I had you to hold on to tonight"

Getting me in the mood quite early gents.
Nice collab guys.


"Dig my imaginary...... Baaand Maaan"
#1130569 - 09/11/17 09:32 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Nelson.
Glad it put you in the mood. Thanks.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130608 - 09/13/17 12:57 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Vic and Travis,

You guys; you're breaking my heart here! You make my smile for the subtle self-deprecating humor, and yet it's pretty sad and has that barroom swagger that few muster as well as Kris K and Roger M but this does and you do too, guys.

Ah yes, I fondly remember the days of waltzing while holding on dearly..to a half finished bottle of beer.. Thanks for the memories. smile

Great work. Love it..

Mike

Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 09/13/17 12:59 PM.

Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice
Fortune depends on the tone of your voice

-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon)
from the song "Songs of Love"
from the album "Casanova" (1996)
#1130620 - 09/13/17 08:09 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Ah .... Mike, you mentioned the Roger M. So pleased.
I loved everything he did.
We backed him and his guitarist, Thumbs Carlisle on the BBC radio when he came over in the 60's.
No rehearsals. It was a fun but we knew his stuff anyway because we'd been doing it for a while. He asked if he could try out our guitarist's custom guitar(which he'd got free to promote it).
After a few licks he gave it back with a dry, "Thank you, I'll stick with mine".
Anyway, I digress. Thank you and so glad you appreciated our efforts.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130630 - 09/13/17 09:52 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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To anybody who read the last two posts and wondered "who is Roger M?"

That's Roger Miller, the King of the Road, the Master of the Two-Minute Ditty. Listen to "England Swings" once and you remember it for life.

What a wonderful time that must've been, Vic, backing such a class act and fun guy.

Mike


Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice
Fortune depends on the tone of your voice

-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon)
from the song "Songs of Love"
from the album "Casanova" (1996)
#1130635 - 09/14/17 06:47 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Cheers Doug
Hope you're feeling better now
Travis


We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
#1130637 - 09/14/17 06:57 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks L.R.
Appreciate your comments
Travis


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#1130687 - 09/15/17 01:55 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Just wanted to stop in here, Vic and Travis, to say how much I enjoyed this one. Another great collaboration between the two of you. Keep it going!

Deej

#1130694 - 09/15/17 02:58 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks Mr. Nelson pleased you enjoyed our song.
Thanks also for your support
Travisuv


We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
#1130700 - 09/15/17 08:18 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Michael Zaneski]  
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Mike.
One of my favourites of his for it's sheer nonsense is "Lou's got the flu"
I have many fond memories of those days, Mike.
Some, not so fond. Such is life.

Thanks again
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130701 - 09/15/17 08:19 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thank you, Deej.
We try.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130722 - 09/15/17 01:46 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks once again Mike for the listen.
My favourite song by the late lamented Roger Miller is Husbands and Wives.
The lyrics are outstanding and equally carry a lot of truth.
Check out the Everly Brothers version too
Travis


We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
#1130738 - 09/16/17 03:24 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Deej.
Pleased you liked the song thanks for playing it and your commentsunami
Travis


We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
#1130837 - 09/20/17 09:50 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Very touching - melancholy Christmas tune - brought a tear to my eye - the writing - melody and performance were excellent - thank you....Pete

#1130847 - 09/21/17 01:15 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Pete
If it brought a tear to your eye or touched you. Then I'm happy!
Thanks for the listen
Travis


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#1130861 - 09/21/17 02:06 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks Pete.
I'm glad it brought a tear to your eye. Sort of. :-)
I'll be posting a video soon.
Vic

Last edited by Vicarn; 09/21/17 02:07 PM.

It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1130877 - 09/22/17 01:51 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Very good song and performance. I liked it a lot.


David Hunkins
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#1130878 - 09/22/17 03:54 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks Moose
Pleased you enjoyed the song
Travis


We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
#1130998 - 09/24/17 05:20 PM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi moose song.
Your comment is much appreciated.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1131073 - 09/28/17 05:08 AM Re: A Tumbleweed Christmas. Travis & Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Type of song Burl Ives could have sung years back

Nice Work Guys


Without the right music your clever lyrics will never be heard, if you want success be prepared to re write many times and even change the meter you chose originally
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