Who's Online Now
9 members (Fdemetrio, VNORTH2, Perry Neal Crawford, couchgrouch, Sunset Poet, Guy E. Trepanier, bennash, Bill Draper, David Gill), 3,725 guests, and 277 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Register Today!
Welcome to the Just Plain Folks forums! You are currently viewing our forums as a Guest which gives you limited access to most of our discussions and to other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post and respond to topics, communicate privately with our users (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free; so please join our community today!
ShoutChat
Comment Guidelines: Do post respectful and insightful comments. Don't flame, hate, spam.
What's Going On
Does Billy Joel belong in top 10?
by Fdemetrio - 03/28/24 11:10 PM
It Is Done
by Sunset Poet - 03/28/24 07:44 PM
Music Industry Summit, Athens Ohio
by Gary E. Andrews - 03/28/24 06:14 PM
Can you save me from me
by VNORTH2 - 03/28/24 03:11 PM
As human as yo
by ckiphen - 03/28/24 09:55 AM
Fox News Reports Stunning Archeological Discovery.
by couchgrouch - 03/27/24 08:02 PM
Wasting My Time
by David Gill - 03/27/24 07:42 AM
Song available
by JAPOV - 03/26/24 03:38 PM
YELLIN AT CLOUDS
by David Gill - 03/26/24 03:20 PM
"Reliving" the great Lou Rawls!
by Brian Austin Whitney - 03/26/24 01:49 PM
::: The Best In My Life :::
by Bill Draper - 03/26/24 01:32 PM
The show must go on
by ckiphen - 03/26/24 09:06 AM
NYC Motel 1972
by rpirone - 03/26/24 12:43 AM
usic Industry Summitt
by Gary E. Andrews - 03/25/24 11:32 PM
The Rant Arena
by JAPOV - 03/25/24 07:39 PM
Song available
by Raymond Byabazaire - 03/25/24 11:55 AM
Song available
by Raymond Byabazaire - 03/25/24 11:55 AM
Lancaster Festival, Lancaster, Ohio
by Gary E. Andrews - 03/25/24 10:51 AM
Wasting my time
by Rob B. - 03/25/24 03:45 AM
Tom Waits.. What's he building
by Fdemetrio - 03/25/24 12:09 AM
Rick Beato, bad lyrics
by Fdemetrio - 03/24/24 11:23 PM
Inspirational Videos Post Them Here
by Sunset Poet - 03/24/24 11:27 AM
Used to take a Genius to Mix
by Fdemetrio - 03/23/24 11:00 AM
"Broken Places"
by Gary E. Andrews - 03/22/24 07:45 PM
All You Are Is A Lie
by Sunset Poet - 03/22/24 06:55 PM
Pour Choices
by Gavin Sinclair - 03/22/24 05:29 PM
Billy's 30 year overdue song.
by Fdemetrio - 03/22/24 01:30 PM
Make my dreams come true
by ckiphen - 03/22/24 10:51 AM
Top Posters
Calvin 19,857
Travis david 12,264
Kevin Emmrich 10,941
Jean Bullock 10,330
Kaley Willow 10,240
Two Singers 9,649
Joice Marie 9,186
Mackie H. 9,003
glynda 8,683
Mike Dunbar 8,574
Tricia Baker 8,318
couchgrouch 8,160
Colin Ward 7,911
Corey 7,357
Vicarn 6,916
Mark Kaufman 6,589
ben willis 6,114
Lynn Orloff 5,788
Louis 5,725
Linda Sings 5,608
KimberlyinNC 5,210
Fdemetrio 4,990
Neil Cotton 4,909
Derek Hines 4,893
DonnaMarilyn 4,670
Blake Hill 4,528
Bob Cushing 4,389
Roy Cooper 4,271
Bill Osofsky 4,199
Tom Shea 4,195
Cindy Miller 4,178
TamsNumber4 4,171
MFB III 4,143
Sunset Poet 4,126
nightengale 4,096
E Swartz 3,985
JAPOV 3,973
beechnut79 3,878
Caroline 3,865
Kolstad 3,845
Dan Sullivan 3,710
Dottie 3,427
joewatt 3,411
Bill Cooper 3,279
John Hoffman 3,199
Skip Johnson 3,027
Pam Hurley 3,007
Terry G 3,005
Nigel Quin 2,891
PopTodd 2,890
Harriet Ames 2,870
MidniteBob 2,761
Nelson 2,616
Tom Tracy 2,558
Jerry Jakala 2,524
Al Alvarez 2,499
Eric Thome 2,448
Hummingbird 2,401
Stan Loh 2,263
Sam Wilson 2,246
Wendy D 2,235
Judy Hollier 2,232
Erica Ellis 2,202
maccharles 2,134
TrumanCoyote 2,096
Marty Helly 2,041
DukeWill 2,002
floyd jane 1,985
Clint Anglin 1,904
cindyrella 1,888
David Wright 1,866
Clairejeanne 1,851
Cindy LaRosa 1,824
Ronald Boyt 1,675
Iggy 1,652
Noel Downs 1,633
Rick Heenan 1,608
Cal 1,574
GocartMoz 1,559
Jack Swain 1,554
Pete Larsen 1,537
Ann Tygart 1,529
Tom Breshers 1,487
RogerS 1,481
Tom Franz 1,473
Chuck Crowe 1,441
Ralph Blight 1,440
Rick Norton 1,429
Kenneth Cade 1,429
bholt 1,411
Letha Allen 1,409
in2piano 1,404
Stan Simons 1,402
Deej56 1,385
mattbanx 1,384
Jen Shaner 1,373
Charlie Wong 1,347
KevinP 1,324
Vondelle 1,316
Tom W. 1,313
Jan Petter 1,301
scottandrew 1,294
lane1777 1,280
Gerry 1,280
DakLander 1,265
IronKnee 1,262
PeteG 1,242
Ian Ferrin 1,235
Glen King 1,214
VNORTH2 1,212
IdeaGuy 1,209
AaronAuthier 1,177
summeoyo 1,174
Diane Ewing 1,162
ckiphen 1,120
joro 1,082
BobbyJoe 1,075
S.DEE 1,040
yann 1,037
9ne 1,035
David Gill 1,032
Tony A 1,016
argo 986
peaden 984
90 dB 964
Wolvman 960
Jak Kelly 912
krtinberg 890
Drifter 886
Petra 883
RJC 845
Brenda152 840
Nadia 829
ant 798
Juan 797
TKO 784
Dayson 781
frahmes 781
bennash 763
teletwang 762
Andy K 750
Andy Kemp 749
tbryson 737
Jackie444 731
Irwin 720
3daveyO3 704
Dixie 701
Joy Boy 695
Pat Hardy 692
Knute 686
Lee Arten 678
Moosesong 668
Katziis 652
R.T.MOORE 638
quality 637
CG King 622
douglas 621
R&M 614
Mel 614
NaomiSue 601
Shandy 590
Ria 587
TAMERA64 583
qbaum 570
nitepiano 566
pRISCILLA 556
Tink2 553
musica 539
deanbell 528
RobertK 527
BonzaiWag 523
Roderic 522
BB Wilbur 513
goodfolks 499
Zeek 487
Stu 486
Steve P. 481
KathyW 462
allenb 459
MaxG 458
Philjo 454
fanito 448
trush48 448
dmk 442
Rob L 439
arealrush 437
DGR 436
avweek 435
Stephen D 433
Emmy 431
marquez 422
kit 419
Softkrome 417
kyrksongs 415
RRon 408
Laura G. 407
VNORTH 407
Debra 407
eb 406
cuebald 399
EdPerrone 399
Dannyk1 395
Hobart 395
Davyboy49 393
Smile 389
GJShades 387
Alek 386
Ezt 384
tone 380
Marla 380
Ann_F 379
iggyiggy 378
coalminer 377
java 374
ddreuter 371
spidey 371
sweetsong 370
danny 367
Rob B. 364
Jim Ryan 360
papaG 353
Z - man 350
JamesDF5 348
John K 348
Jaden 344
TheBaz 340
Steggy 339
leif 339
tonedeaf 336
rickwork 334
Eddie Ray 332
Johnboy 328
Bob Lever 328
Helicon1 327
lucian 326
Muskie 321
kc 319
Z. Mulls 318
ptondreau 313
ONOFFON 312
Chris B. 310
trush 304
ed323 297
Ellen M 294
markus-ky 293
lizzorn 291
nicnac49 290
Char 286
ktunes 285
Top Likes Received
JAPOV 86
VNORTH2 45
bennash 38
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
PeteG Offline OP
Top 200 Poster
OP Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
Lovers in the Rain

By popular demand! whistle Here is a new version - https://www.soundclick.com/html5/v3/player.cfm?type=single&songid=13625996&q=hi

https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13625996

I wrote this song many years ago, and I'm just publishing it now. I wanted to write a sophisticated pop song and this is what came out. I still like the song and I wanted to get some feedback on it. Here it is! What do you think?
I sang this and played the electric guitar fills and lead, the rest of the music is vintage Band in the Box MIDI from the 1980's , the electric guitar was worked in just a few years ago, and this mix was put together on Digital Performer and iZotope mastering software. The vocal was part of the original recording in the mid/late 80's.


Lovers in the Rain

We were walking on the hillside you were talking about the past
I was dreaming about our future but that dream faded so fast
All the love we knew
was overcome by feelings that are changing what seemed true
Yesterday in sunshine I lay close by your side
Was there a look I missed that said your love had died
How quick the weather can change
It's much colder and the sky is welling up, feels so strange

chorus

Lovers in the Rain, the scene that ends the play
Only tears remain, come rolling down our cheeks
They won't be seen again, it's just a memory of
Lovers in the Rain, a thousand heartaches later
The lessons and the blame, that's just the lonely baggage
Waiting to be claimed, then bon voyage to Lovers in the Rain


Souvenirs and presents, what to do with all this stuff
When it came to photographs , we took more than enough
Such a lovely day,
I'll just put it on a shelf out of the way
Now I have the time to experiment and explore
My love life's so much broader now than just the girl who lived nextdoor
What a fool was I
So bourgeois and so naive, over silly things I'd cry, like

repeat chorus

guitar solo

repeat chorus


copyright - Pete Gallatin 2017

Last edited by PeteG; 09/30/17 12:29 AM. Reason: new version
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,280
Likes: 3
Top 200 Poster
Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,280
Likes: 3
damn Pete thats a good song, written well, I like the music, if this had a little harmony, a bit more bass, I can imagine many people singing this tune. the song stands by its self just the way it is. to me thats a good thing. Lane



"Blessed are the words of truth and fiction,
one might save you from the other...Vincent
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
PeteG Offline OP
Top 200 Poster
OP Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
Originally Posted by lane1777
damn Pete thats a good song, written well, I like the music, if this had a little harmony, a bit more bass, I can imagine many people singing this tune. the song stands by its self just the way it is. to me thats a good thing. Lane


That's an encouraging comment Lane. I work hard to get the mix right, and I feel I've made a lot of progress, but don't feel like I've mastered (no pun) it yet. I wish I had the vocal on a separate track, but should probably just be happy to have kept the stereo track that I have from say 30 year's ago. But I suppose I could add a vocal harmony track, just as I did the guitar part? My voice has changed enough it would be like a different person singing.(smile) I think with a few minor lyric changes this would work well for a female vocalist. I was hesitant about publishing this , so thanks for making my day. -- Pete

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
PeteG Offline OP
Top 200 Poster
OP Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
[Sorry - duplicated- admin. please delete

Last edited by PeteG; 09/09/17 01:54 AM. Reason: duplicate
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 19,857
Likes: 1
Top 10 Poster
Offline
Top 10 Poster
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 19,857
Likes: 1
Hello Pete,


It's always good to see you again.
Nice job.

this is especially nice......

The lessons and the blame, that's just the lonely baggage
Waiting to be claimed, then bon voyage to Lovers in the Rain


Calvin


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart

Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,711
Likes: 18
Top 50 Poster
Offline
Top 50 Poster
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 5,711
Likes: 18
Hi Pete,

Very sweet song. smile

I love those major seventh chords that give it a late seventies retro sound.

The vocal sounds like you captured a nice performance or composite of performances, but it sounds both distorted and like you are a super faraway distance from the mic and as a result there's not much nuance captured in your vocal. Improvement here would really help showcase this beautiful song. The guitar solo is also mixed too loud in relation to everything else.

But you've got a beautiful song, and that's the most important thing. Your recordings will improve with time.

Mike


Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice
Fortune depends on the tone of your voice

-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon)
from the song "Songs of Love"
from the album "Casanova" (1996)
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
PeteG Offline OP
Top 200 Poster
OP Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
Originally Posted by Calvin
Hello Pete,


It's always good to see you again.
Nice job.

this is especially nice.....


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart


I'm one of nicest guys you'll ever meet...NOT! just kidding - Thanks Calvin, much appreciated - I've been moving my music stuff into the basement this past week and haven't been keeping up with posting. Wishing you the best......Pete

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
PeteG Offline OP
Top 200 Poster
OP Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
Thanks for your critique , Mike. The main recording was done mid- to late 80's on a Vestafire 4 track cassette- and I kept it along with many other recordings on cassettes from that time - the machine I recorded it on is toast and you can't find a working Vestafire on ebay,at least I couldn't ,so I bought a tascam 4 track to try to access this and other songs I did back then.
I had little confidence in this or any of the other songs I recorded at the time. Most of the people I knew who were trying to get into songwriting were getting studio demos or backing tracks made to pitch their tunes. Too expensive for me. so I joined NSAI and learned the craft of songwriting from pros - got some positive feedback on material I wrote for the Country market - did make a demo - had it picked up by TAXI who put it on a promo CD - my song and name next to Randy Bachman- signed a license contract with Rex Benson- had a cut on a CD - had a song in a movie. Then at some point soured on the whole thing- mainly because of money. But I kept my wife, kept my house and enjoy my life and retirement just fine. SO - I have shared this old song to get the feedback it never got before - and I'm happy you generally liked it. If a talented artist like yourself would like to do a version of it - I would be thrilled. If you'd like to reconstruct it, modernize it, that is fine also - and I'd be happy to assist. Thanks Mike, and I always appreciate and look forward to your comments..... Pete

Joined: May 2017
Posts: 2,143
Likes: 26
Top 200 Poster
Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 2,143
Likes: 26
What a lovely song! The distant vocals do add a certain poignancy, but as Mike says, they are kind of distorted. It's a pity you don't have them on a separate track. Do you feel like putting in the effort to recreate the whole song? I think it would be worth it, but that's easy for me to say, since I wouldn't have to do it smile

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
PeteG Offline OP
Top 200 Poster
OP Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
Thanks Gavin, I dearly appreciate the kind words. I'm trying to get get Mike Z to recreate it for me. Might have to drop it down a key for me to do it 30 years later from the original. ha ha Saying and doing are definitely two different things, you're right. So I'm saying nothing and keeping my options open, ha ha . thanks Gavin, I'm sure we'll talk more....Pete

Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,616
Top 200 Poster
Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,616
This is a lovely write indeed.
Beautiful yet heart breaking and peppered with wonderful lines…

“Yesterday in sunshine I lay close by your side
Was there a look I missed that said your love had died”

Your vocals remind me of Barry Manilow.

All the best with it, Pete.

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
PeteG Offline OP
Top 200 Poster
OP Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
Hey ,Thanks Nelson. Copa, Copacabanna, - that's him, One of his longtime writers spoke to our songwriters group when the old Songwriters Guild was still going. Barry had a following -that's for sure.

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 6,325
Likes: 4
Top 40 Poster
Offline
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 6,325
Likes: 4
a great 60's pop song. really love the vocals and the presentation. Could hear The Four Seasons dong this. smile

Douglas


"Is this a practice? They are all practices." John Denver

www.soundclick.com/dougmurphy

Skype Contact: douglas.murphy8
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
PeteG Offline OP
Top 200 Poster
OP Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
Originally Posted by Douglas Murphy
a great 60's pop song. really love the vocals and the presentation. Could hear The Four Seasons dong this. smile

Douglas


Wow, the 4 Seasons - that would be so great. I would have never thought of them. thanks Doug, really appreciated.

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,985
Likes: 22
Top 100 Poster
Offline
Top 100 Poster
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 3,985
Likes: 22
Hi Pete.

The song has a sweetness and innocence/vibe of a late 60's/early 70's pop song. There were a lot of different pop sounds in the late 60's, for sure however. I agree with what others have stated above. I think you have a nostalgic desire to keep this vibe as is (which is fine). However it would be interesting hearing a more current rendition and production. Don't sell yourself short about re-singing the song with a modern warmer mic--you might not get it the first take or so, but I bet you would surprise yourself. I think you are sounding fine, but are limited somewhat with enhancing the vocal due to the capture from 30 years ago. A studio with a good quality tube pre-amp could to some degree run the vocal track back through the analog chain then back into a good converter which might also improve the sonic sound of the track--(So I've been told). Maybe Mike could help you with that little trick.

I had one lyric idea. I'm not crazy about the walking on the "hillside." Perhaps walking in the Park/Night/Rain or something that feels more romantic. Hillside sounds like you were bringing in the sheep or cows (kidding ya) but seriously, I do think hillside sounds a bit too odd for a romantic walk--even if it may be "true," sometimes dramatizing the real story is essential just as in the movies to create a better visual picture in one's mind. I think that topic sentence that launches the song is of real importance with a ballad to create that mood or visual.

What fun to bring an old song back to life, nice melody and some really fine lines here Pete! I enjoyed it.

steady-eddie.

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
PeteG Offline OP
Top 200 Poster
OP Offline
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,242
Originally Posted by E Swartz
Hi Pete.

The song has a sweetness and innocence/vibe of a late 60's/early 70's pop song. There were a lot of different pop sounds in the late 60's, for sure however. I agree with what others have stated above. I think you have a nostalgic desire to keep this vibe as is (which is fine). However it would be interesting hearing a more current rendition and production. Don't sell yourself short about re-singing the song with a modern warmer mic--you might not get it the first take or so, but I bet you would surprise yourself. I think you are sounding fine, but are limited somewhat with enhancing the vocal due to the capture from 30 years ago. A studio with a good quality tube pre-amp could to some degree run the vocal track back through the analog chain then back into a good converter which might also improve the sonic sound of the track--(So I've been told). Maybe Mike could help you with that little trick.

I had one lyric idea. I'm not crazy about the walking on the "hillside." Perhaps walking in the Park/Night/Rain or something that feels more romantic. Hillside sounds like you were bringing in the sheep or cows (kidding ya) but seriously, I do think hillside sounds a bit too odd for a romantic walk--even if it may be "true," sometimes dramatizing the real story is essential just as in the movies to create a better visual picture in one's mind. I think that topic sentence that launches the song is of real importance with a ballad to create that mood or visual.

What fun to bring an old song back to life, nice melody and some really fine lines here Pete! I enjoyed it.

steady-eddie.


I think you've talked me into giving it another shot - no promises but if I can find a pleasing groove I'll try to get into it again - and I should say thanks to all who have been encouraging in regard to this song. I'll take your idea on the first line into consideration. "Twilight" might work - or "As we walked along together" would fit. To me "hillside" seems romantic enough - like an English novel setting? Anyway I hope to get something together in a week or so and we can A-B the versions - Thanks Eddie.....Pete


Link Copied to Clipboard
Support Just Plain Folks

We would like to keep the membership in Just Plain Folks FREE! Your donation helps support the many programs we offer including Road Trips and the Music Awards.


Newest Members
chriscastle, yasir252, cathennashira, Samwise, HappySousa
21,470 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums117
Topics125,717
Posts1,160,950
Members21,470
Most Online37,523
Jan 25th, 2020
Just Plain Quotes
"If one man can do it, any man can do it. It is true. But the real question is, if one man did it, are you willing to do what it takes to do it as well?" –Brian Austin Whitney
Today's Birthdays
warriorgirl (2024)
Popular Topics(Views)
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5