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#1129804 - 08/12/17 07:03 PM Brainwashed Google Policy  
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Do any of you honestly believe the young male employee (I think his job description is some type of Engineer) deserved to be terminated for having the guts to "call out" Management for creating a Politically Correct Environment where employees are encouraged to be mediocre? Many of you may not realize just how invasive Google (Gargoyle) actually happens to be by tracking your every inquiry. I believe this is an invasion of privacy of the first magnitude. I also hope the young man finds meaningful employment and uses his skills to help pull the plug on this bunch of slugs..

I share an equal disdain for Microsoft and Apple. These overstuffed corporations need to be split into several smaller entities in order to encourage a level playing field.

It is sad when "Diversity" is pawned off on our society in order to promote mediocrity. Thank God this type of thinking was not around when we had to fight WWII. If that had been the modus operandi back then, we would all be speaking German or Japanese instead of English (and Spanish by legislation) which also galls me to the core. Folks who live here need to speak the language of the land... or learn it before being awarded citizenship.

Sad, ----Dave

#1129809 - 08/13/17 03:39 AM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Free Speech is over for the left. It's a sad change of philosophy and a lot of brainwashed kids who happily give up their most important right to avoid negative peer pressure. I think we're past the tipping point. The mainstream media is hopeless corrupt and there isn't a single place you can go in print or TV for honest information on any news story. There's some decent independent first hand reporting going on via YouTube, but now they are banning opinions they don't like as well. Google as a company has become an evil cesspool and being as they are so powerful, far more than our government, we're all pretty much screwed. Why the classical liberals out there are allowing this to happen is beyond me. The extremists have won the day.


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#1129846 - 08/14/17 01:09 AM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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It seems ridiculous to me too that this guy was fired. I'm not sure that I agree with what he said, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to say it. If the CEO disagreed, he should just have exercised the free speech he seems to want to deny his employee and said so.

The flip side of this is that you can't say the mainstream media is "hopelessly corrupt" because you disagree with much of what it says any more than Google should be firing someone because they don't like what he says. For all their faults, there are plenty of folks in the "mainstream media" who are making great efforts to report honestly. Discrediting serious and honorable reporting is a central plank in the current administration's strategy to gull us into giving equal weight to their fantasies, distortions and "alternative facts," so that we think Breitbart is as concerned with the truth as NPR or that Infowars and Sean Hannity are as reliable as Reuters.

#1129850 - 08/14/17 08:36 AM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Hi Brian and Gavin:

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this troubling subject. Gavin, I've long believed the "media" in this part of the world is corrupt to the core, awash in political correctness and mindless liberalism. Like you, I don't swallow all the swill our friends at Fox News are sending our way. But...they do tend to present both sides more fairly than the rest. I would like to see less reporting from conversations with "leakers" because we have no way to confirm or deny their authenticity. Reminds me a bit of Maxine Waters and her mindless babble spewn in the direction of our current President. I did vote for him but would have preferred any (well, at least most) of the other candidates on the GOP Ticket. Any of them would have been a better choice than either of the Democratic offerings. Despite his tendencies to blow his own horn, over-tweeting and his propensity stray from the script, Trump has made several accomplishments in his brief tenure... in his attempt to "right the ship." (Without much help from the Donkeys.)

As we now face the possibility of Nuclear Chess with the NOKOs... I would much prefer him at the helm than that "Server Smashing Little Dumpling" or poor old Bernie who still believes in the tooth fairy. Mr. Trump seems to have selected a capable cabinet and his VP would probably make a better President and leader than he is at present.

I hope I misread or mis-understood your comment about NPR. They are always liberal and biased in their handwringing news reports which they receive as "a feed" from Reuters. On the flip side, their Masterpiece Offerings are much better entertainment than the rest of the drivel we get from our other, private networks... including FOX who tries to dumb us down with the Simpsons.

Realizing I am probably in the minority here, like Brian... it does not matter... and I respect your right to disagree. That is what makes our country great... and Google very small in my little telescope.

Regards, ----Dave

#1129854 - 08/14/17 09:20 AM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Dave, I get the impression you may be in the majority here.

I disagree with just about every word you wrote, but it's good to have a broad spectrum of views here, reflecting the society we live in. At the end of the day, we're here for the music, so I'm going to get off my soapbox and stop bashing everyone's ears with my political views. Those ears are already in enough danger of bashing from my music.

#1129865 - 08/14/17 10:22 AM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Well said, Gavin:

We agree to disagree... with appropriate respect. Music is the purpose of Brian's website... and I will do my best to keep that in mind. (Some would say, "They really wish I had a mind!"... LOL!)

Regards, ----Dave

#1129868 - 08/14/17 10:30 AM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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The media has always had liberal ownership and been liberal and heavily biased. Bias doesn't just come with what they say and print. It also comes with the editorial choices of what they have always chosen to say and print versus what they fail to mention. Back in the print age, they owned the news. Now, thankfully, in the internet age...the news comes from a lot of places and gives us a chance to see the level of bias and question it.

The problem is that I cannot think of one media outlet, conservative or political, that is not badly biased. Tabloid news stirs more emotions and makes more money.

Google...the centralization of information about us should be horrifying. And the thing that I hate this most is that they are all in for tearing down stereotypes, yet building massive algorithmic profiles about what our browsing histories say about our personality traits. It's not about right or wrong. Never is. It's about money, power and influence. If you have it you get to do what you want because no one can stop you.

#1129910 - 08/15/17 02:23 PM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Gavin Sinclair]  
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Originally Posted by Gavin Sinclair
It seems ridiculous to me too that this guy was fired. I'm not sure that I agree with what he said, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to say it. If the CEO disagreed, he should just have exercised the free speech he seems to want to deny his employee and said so.

The flip side of this is that you can't say the mainstream media is "hopelessly corrupt" because you disagree with much of what it says any more than Google should be firing someone because they don't like what he says. For all their faults, there are plenty of folks in the "mainstream media" who are making great efforts to report honestly. Discrediting serious and honorable reporting is a central plank in the current administration's strategy to gull us into giving equal weight to their fantasies, distortions and "alternative facts," so that we think Breitbart is as concerned with the truth as NPR or that Infowars and Sean Hannity are as reliable as Reuters.


I don't call it hopelessly corrupt because I disagree with it, I call it hopelessly corrupt because it is hopelessly corrupt. You can't say it is not corrupted just because you agree with it.


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#1129913 - 08/15/17 03:01 PM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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I only agree with sources that try to tell the truth. They may get it wrong sometimes, in which case they should issue apologies/retractions. Reputable sources do. Being human, they may even show a bias in what they choose to cover, although deciding whether that's biased tends to become just as subjective as the coverage itself. That is a long, long, long way from being hopelessly corrupt.

What do you actually mean by "hopelessly corrupt"?

#1129914 - 08/15/17 03:33 PM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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There is definitely going to be a bias whether it is Rush Limbaugh or CNN. The bigger issue looks to be leaving out both sides and not being informative. Bias from another slant becomes bigotry. Most of the 4th estate more recently has turned to one side. Especially noticeable since practically the beginning of the Trump campaigne.

#1129921 - 08/15/17 06:04 PM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Hi Matt:

Thanks for your opinion. It's great to live in a country where we are free to express ourselves. Can you be a little more definitive about what you call, "The Fourth Estate?" Forgive me, I don't get out that often but I do watch the news... if real news is even available. Even Fox has begun to hire folks that seem to lean to the left. Eventually, I guess I'll have to get all my news from the Commies. (Russian and Chinese Propaganda TV) I wish our networks would just go back to having someone read the news without a panel of "experts" to try and influence our thinking. I'd rather decide for myself than hear some airhead spout-off about their twenty year old experiences. LOL!

I spend most of my time writing songs and recording them. When possible, I play chess but I've had to give up my favorite activity outside of songwriting... golf! Eventually, as we age, our ailments begin to multiply and a bad back is not conducive to playing "pasture pool." All that aside, it is a wonderful thing to be "above ground" and able to think and act for myself.

I hope all is well with you.

Regards, ----Dave

#1129922 - 08/15/17 06:32 PM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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"I wish our networks would just go back to having someone read the news without a panel of "experts" to try and influence our thinking."

Well said, Dave. You can still find news sources like that, but they are often drowned out. Many of the "news channels" are really just discussion forums, and the people doing the discussing are often just loud mouthed simpletons - even those commies you say they're hiring over at Fox News. smile

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Originally Posted by R&M
There is definitely going to be a bias whether it is Rush Limbaugh or CNN. The bigger issue looks to be leaving out both sides and not being informative. Bias from another slant becomes bigotry. Most of the 4th estate more recently has turned to one side. Especially noticeable since practically the beginning of the Trump campaigne.


Rush Limbaugh is a commentator who shares his opinions on news and it's no secret where he is coming from, he is NOT news, just opinion. CNN is supposed to report the news without bias or opinions from reporters. Big difference.


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#1129994 - Yesterday at 03:41 PM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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My Gosh!
I just realized I wrot a song for youse guys! You can listen to it at http://www.geocities.ws/fiverosesmusicgroup/ under Rays Music, Entitled AROUND THE HORN! I am not ever going be politically correct!


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#1129996 - Yesterday at 06:44 PM Re: Brainwashed Google Policy [Re: Dave Rice]  
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No you're not, Ray! I don't think you have to worry about anyone calling you that.

I really enjoyed the song and the singing, although I did kind of feel that I was being lectured to about how I'd be a much better sort of fella if I was just more like you. Of course, it's quite possible that I would. smile

Great job.

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Well,
There is one thing I have noticed. If I Google something and find the Web Page the Link to the Page will show up on other sites later.
So Google is tracking my searches. No matter.

Uh, Gavin, I don't Preach to people, I let the Cold hard facts of life do that.


Ray E. Strode

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