Who's Online Now
25 registered members (Brian Austin Whitney, Joe Wrabek, Barry David Butler, couchgrouch, Irwin, Harriet Ames, cloudsongs, Colin Ward, 9ne, 6 invisible), and 250 guests, and
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box
Member Spotlight
summeoyo
summeoyo
Harrisburg, PA, USA
Posts: 1,083
Joined: August 2002
Show All Member Profiles 
What's Going On
This Old House Weeps
by Barry David Butler. 05/26/17 11:42 PM
Left Too Soon
by Ricki E. Bellos. 05/26/17 08:41 PM
One Step Two Steps
by Ricki E. Bellos. 05/26/17 08:29 PM
Go Preds Go
by John Voorpostel. 05/26/17 05:36 PM
The Music Industry SKY Is Falling!!
by John Lawrence Schick. 05/26/17 04:25 PM
I pity today's DJs
by Marc Barnette. 05/26/17 03:59 PM
100 Days
by Calvin. 05/26/17 03:26 PM
Meds for stagefright?
by Brian Austin Whitney. 05/26/17 01:50 PM
Forty Four Years Ago
by E Swartz. 05/26/17 11:47 AM
"My Walk Through Arlington
by Barry David Butler. 05/26/17 10:42 AM
Creativity and the Use of BIAB and Loops
by Martin Lide. 05/26/17 10:09 AM
After All We've Been Through (Daubert)
by GocartMoz. 05/26/17 09:28 AM
Anyone Trade Domain Names ?
by niteshift. 05/25/17 11:42 PM
Reflection
by E Swartz. 05/25/17 09:58 PM
Of Scamps and Scalawags
by beechnut79. 05/25/17 09:16 PM
2017 Nominees Check In Here!
by Brian Austin Whitney. 05/25/17 08:33 PM
These Are The Worse Days Of Our Lives
by nightengale. 05/25/17 05:15 PM
CD baby down sizing again
by Brian Austin Whitney. 05/25/17 04:04 PM
I've Learned So Much From Loving You
by couchgrouch. 05/25/17 03:56 PM
Pickiní And Singiní
by Neil Cotton. 05/25/17 01:32 PM
Leave and break your heart
by Travis david. 05/25/17 12:28 PM
How many writers does it take to make a "HIT"?
by Barry David Butler. 05/25/17 10:52 AM
Joan of Arc (Leonard Cohen Cover)
by GocartMoz. 05/25/17 10:31 AM
Yet, Not Yet
by Neil Cotton. 05/24/17 10:14 AM
Life's All About The Fix
by nightengale. 05/23/17 09:36 PM
Gateway To Goodbye
by nightengale. 05/23/17 06:10 PM
I Don't Drink Cocktails Anymore
by beechnut79. 05/23/17 10:22 AM
Rock it or lose it.
by Travis david. 05/23/17 09:49 AM
Welcome To Facebook
by Barry David Butler. 05/23/17 07:46 AM
Shadow Boy
by Deej56. 05/23/17 12:55 AM
Top Posters(All Time)
Calvin 19,069
Kevin Emmrich 10,527
Jean Bullock 10,330
Kaley Willow 10,240
Travis david 10,080
Two Singers 9,571
Joice Marie 9,186
Mackie H. 8,684
Mike Dunbar 8,574
glynda 8,557
Tricia Baker 8,318
Colin Ward 7,756
Corey 7,357
couchgrouch 7,170
Wyman Lloyd 6,578
Mark Kaufman 6,426
Joe Wrabek 6,390
ben willis 6,051
Dave Rice 5,932
Lynn Orloff 5,788
Louis 5,718
Linda Sings 5,601
niteshift 5,317
KimberlyinNC 5,195
Vicarn 5,109
Derek Hines 4,893
DonnaMarilyn 4,596
Blake Hill 4,528
Bob Cushing 4,342
Bill Osofsky 4,199
Cindy Miller 4,178
Tom Shea 4,173
Neil Cotton 3,961
nightengale 3,948
TamsNumber4 3,916
Roy Cooper 3,880
Caroline 3,865
Kolstad 3,744
Dan Sullivan 3,710
MFB III 3,687
Dottie 3,427
joewatt 3,411
Bill Cooper 3,279
John Hoffman 3,199
beechnut79 3,172
Skip Johnson 3,027
Pam Hurley 3,007
Terry G 3,005
Harriet Ames 2,865
PopTodd 2,855
E Swartz 2,831
Nigel Quin 2,795
MidniteBob 2,589
Tom Tracy 2,558
Polly Hager 2,526
Jerry Jakala 2,524
Al Alvarez 2,499
Eric Thome 2,448
Hummingbird 2,401
Nelson 2,359
Stan Loh 2,263
Sam Wilson 2,241
Judy Hollier 2,232
Erica Ellis 2,202
Wendy D 2,151
TrumanCoyote 2,096
Marty Helly 2,012
DukeWill 1,984
Ray Thyer 1,929
Clint Anglin 1,904
cindyrella 1,888
David Wright 1,866
Clairejeanne 1,851
Cindy LaRosa 1,824
maccharles 1,748
floyd jane 1,713
Ronald Boyt 1,675
Noel Downs 1,620
Iggy 1,588
Cal 1,574
Jack Swain 1,554
Rick Heenan 1,552
Pete Larsen 1,537
Ann Tygart 1,529
Tom Breshers 1,487
Tom Franz 1,450
RogerS 1,445
Ralph Blight 1,440
Chuck Crowe 1,435
Kenneth Cade 1,429
Rick Norton 1,427
bholt 1,411
Letha Allen 1,406
Stan Simons 1,402
in2piano 1,397
mattbanx 1,384
Jen Shaner 1,367
Charlie Wong 1,347
KevinP 1,324
Vondelle 1,316
Tom W. 1,311
Jan Petter 1,300
scottandrew 1,292
DakLander 1,265
GocartMoz 1,257
Janice & Bud 1,242
Ian Ferrin 1,230
IdeaGuy 1,209
Glen King 1,209
AaronAuthier 1,177
Diane Ewing 1,158
PeteG 1,146
summeoyo 1,083
Gerry 1,077
BobbyJoe 1,075
joro 1,045
S.DEE 1,040
yann 1,037
Tony A 1,016
argo 986
peaden 984
Wolvman 960
Jak Kelly 912
krtinberg 890
IronKnee 884
Petra 883
Drifter 856
RJC 845
Brenda152 840
Nadia 827
Juan 797
TKO 784
frahmes 781
teletwang 762
lane1777 746
90 dB 745
tbryson 736
Andy Kemp 732
Andy K 729
Jackie444 718
3daveyO3 704
Dayson 703
Dixie 701
Joy Boy 695
ant 694
Knute 686
Lee Arten 678
Katziis 652
R.T.MOORE 638
quality 637
CG King 622
douglas 621
Mel 614
NaomiSue 601
Shandy 589
Ria 587
TAMERA64 583
qbaum 570
nitepiano 565
pRISCILLA 556
Tink2 553
musica 539
9ne 532
deanbell 528
RobertK 527
Roderic 522
Irwin 520
Pat Hardy 513
BB Wilbur 511
goodfolks 499
Moosesong 491
Zeek 487
Stu 486
Steve P. 481
KathyW 462
allenb 459
MaxG 458
Philjo 454
fanito 448
trush48 448
R&M 442
dmk 442
arealrush 437
DGR 436
avweek 435
Stephen D 433
Emmy 431
Rob L 426
marquez 422
kit 419
Softkrome 417
kyrksongs 415
RRon 408
Laura G. 407
VNORTH 407
Debra 407
eb 406
cuebald 399
EdPerrone 398
Dannyk1 395
Hobart 395
Davyboy49 393
Smile 389
GJShades 387
Ezt 384
tone 380
Marla 380
iggyiggy 378
coalminer 377
Cecilee 376
java 374
spidey 371
sweetsong 370
danny 367
Jim Ryan 360
papaG 353
Alek 351
Z - man 350
John K 348
JamesDF5 347
Jaden 344
ddreuter 341
TheBaz 340
Steggy 339
leif 339
tonedeaf 336
rickwork 334
Eddie Ray 332
Johnboy 328
Bob Lever 328
Helicon1 327
lucian 326
Muskie 321
kc 319
Z. Mulls 318
ptondreau 313
ONOFFON 312
Chris B. 310
trush 304
ed323 297
Ellen M 293
lizzorn 291
nicnac49 290
pomeranj 289
Char 286
ktunes 285
mastrose 280
pammie 279
Register Today!
Welcome to the Just Plain Folks forums! You are currently viewing our forums as a Guest which gives you limited access to most of our discussions and to other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post and respond to topics, communicate privately with our users (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free; so please join our community today!
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#1125539 - 03/18/17 04:21 PM Website tells you if your song is infringing?  
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 513
Pat Hardy Offline
Top 500 Poster
Pat Hardy  Offline
Top 500 Poster

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 513
I remember seeing a website where you could submit an original song, and it would
come back with songs that sound alike or similar, leaving you with the decision if
it is an infringement or not.
(too bad that site didn't exist for George Harrison on My Sweet Lord when he "wrote" it.
Personally, I think he heard it as a teenager and it was in his subconscious -- he was a 50s/early 60s child, like me when the Chiffon's "He's So Fine" was a hit in i think 1963-ish ).

has anyone seen this website or know what the URL is?

I think most of us wonder, in the back of our minds, if our new "gem" has been done before, or I know I do.

By The way, some trivia, "He's So Fine" was shopped to 10 different labels before it was accepted by Laurie Records. Many of those who rejected it thought it was "too trite". So, if you have a catchy but trite song lyric-wise, there is hope smile

Pat

Last edited by pathardy; 03/18/17 04:30 PM.
#1125540 - 03/18/17 04:49 PM Re: Website tells you if your song is infringing? [Re: Pat Hardy]  
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 8,339
John Lawrence Schick Offline
Top 25 Poster
John Lawrence Schick  Offline
Top 25 Poster

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 8,339
PA
Originally Posted by pathardy
I remember seeing a website where you could submit an original song, and it would
come back with songs that sound alike or similar, leaving you with the decision if
it is an infringement or not.
(too bad that site didn't exist for George Harrison on My Sweet Lord when he "wrote" it.
Personally, I think he heard it as a teenager and it was in his subconscious -- he was a 50s/early 60s child, like me when the Chiffon's "He's So Fine" was a hit in i think 1963-ish ).

has anyone seen this website or know what the URL is?

I think most of us wonder, in the back of our minds, if our new "gem" has been done before, or I know I do.

By The way, some trivia, "He's So Fine" was shopped to 10 different labels before it was accepted by Laurie Records. Many of those who rejected it thought it was "too trite". So, if you have a catchy but trite song lyric-wise, there is hope smile

Pat


Nah, I don't even consider that any longer Pat. It puts a damper on the composing process. With 12 half-tones and millions (maybe billions) of songs it would be impossible for any website mechanism to be accurate. Probably would come up with thousands of similar songs (that really arenít similar). Being filtered by lyrics would probably find even more similar songs. Besides, if you compose from your heart and not intentionally copying someone else, it is your original work. Just that maybe someone else was having similar feelings. That being said; there just ainít enough dissonant sounding songs out there. Let me hear the clashing of tones!

John smile

#1125566 - 03/19/17 04:41 PM Re: Website tells you if your song is infringing? [Re: Pat Hardy]  
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 30
Ted Martin Offline
Casual Observer
Ted Martin  Offline
Casual Observer

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 30
Oregon

Last edited by Ted Martin; 03/19/17 04:41 PM.
#1125572 - 03/19/17 09:24 PM Re: Website tells you if your song is infringing? [Re: Pat Hardy]  
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 123
Toby Barns Offline
Serious Contributor
Toby Barns  Offline
Serious Contributor

Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 123
Central Illinois
It makes me think of a genre like the Blues and how many twelve-bar blues tunes are so similar. I would imagine that there would be loads of similar songs come up after submitting one of those. That's an interesting idea though.

#1125609 - 03/20/17 08:40 PM Re: Website tells you if your song is infringing? [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 513
Pat Hardy Offline
Top 500 Poster
Pat Hardy  Offline
Top 500 Poster

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 513
Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
Originally Posted by pathardy
I remember seeing a website where you could submit an original song, and it would
come back with songs that sound alike or similar, leaving you with the decision if
it is an infringement or not.
(too bad that site didn't exist for George Harrison on My Sweet Lord when he "wrote" it.
Personally, I think he heard it as a teenager and it was in his subconscious -- he was a 50s/early 60s child, like me when the Chiffon's "He's So Fine" was a hit in i think 1963-ish ).

has anyone seen this website or know what the URL is?

I think most of us wonder, in the back of our minds, if our new "gem" has been done before, or I know I do.

By The way, some trivia, "He's So Fine" was shopped to 10 different labels before it was accepted by Laurie Records. Many of those who rejected it thought it was "too trite". So, if you have a catchy but trite song lyric-wise, there is hope smile

Pat


Nah, I don't even consider that any longer Pat. It puts a damper on the composing process. With 12 half-tones and millions (maybe billions) of songs it would be impossible for any website mechanism to be accurate. Probably would come up with thousands of similar songs (that really arenít similar). Being filtered by lyrics would probably find even more similar songs. Besides, if you compose from your heart and not intentionally copying someone else, it is your original work. Just that maybe someone else was having similar feelings. That being said; there just ainít enough dissonant sounding songs out there. Let me hear the clashing of tones!

John smile


I hear ya, but I still would like to listen to possible songs that might be similar, but only after I finish the song so it won't, as you say, put a damper on the creative process. There is always the possibility a song bubbles up from your subconscious, which you think is yours, belongs to someone else, This actually happened to me. I wrote a beautiful song, though it was different overall, but the best parts of it were actually identical to "Soon" by Gershwin. After thinking and thinking about it, it finally occurred to me the childhood memory of my dad playing a record with that song on it, that, apparently, moved me as a child, and thus i retained the melody, forgot the experience, and all the while I thought it was my song. I didn't find out it wasn't my tune until I played it for a jazz aficionado friend of mine who was familiar with every known standard ( I know quite a few, but not all ) and recognized it, so I went on youtube to listen to a few versions, and sure enough, "my tune" was just too close to Gershwin's that I would even dare claim it as my own. I think this is hat happened to Harrison, but more completely, his tune is identical to He's So fine much more so that my tune was identical to Soon. This is the type of thing that I want to prevent.

As for dissonance, I do love dissonant chords like the MinorMaj7 and dense cluster chords ( like bill evans plays ) and so on.

Last edited by pathardy; 03/20/17 08:43 PM.
#1125610 - 03/20/17 08:46 PM Re: Website tells you if your song is infringing? [Re: Ted Martin]  
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 513
Pat Hardy Offline
Top 500 Poster
Pat Hardy  Offline
Top 500 Poster

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 513
Originally Posted by Ted Martin


Yeah, the Pachebel rant is very well known, but thanks, but there it's not really plagiarism, it's just showing a lot of songs using the Pachebel chords and chords are fair game, there are just so many useful ones, we all must share.


Support Just Plain Folks

We would like to keep the membership in Just Plain Folks FREE! Your donation helps support the many programs we offer including Road Trips and the Music Awards.


Membership
Join Just Plain Folks
to receive the free
JPNotes Newsletter!
*this is separate from
message board registration*

Newest Members
MarinaKingston, cloudsongs, Jaketaylorsongs1961, lindero, kirpi
20905 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums116
Topics116,593
Posts1,098,553
Members20,905
Average Posts Daily32
Most Online1,506
Mar 16th, 2017
Just Plain Quotes
"Parents are notorious for telling you not to do something, but not telling you WHAT to do instead. So here are my thoughts. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, give it a manicure. Don't burn your bridges, go out and build more! And of course, Don't run with Scissors, use them to cut out your press clippings!" -Brian Austin Whitney
Today's Birthdays
robsoncompositor (54)
Popular Topics(Views)
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0