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#1125253 - 03/12/17 04:22 PM Songwriter Performance Royalties - Sad  
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Originally Posted by Ray E. Strode
But my advice as many others say Don't give up your day job!


Yes. Keep a day job until the money from the music exceeds the day job. Money comes first.

#1125256 - 03/12/17 04:41 PM Re: Songwriter Performance Royalties - Sad [Re: DesireInspires]  
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Originally Posted by DesireInspires
Originally Posted by Ray E. Strode
But my advice as many others say Don't give up your day job!
Yes. Keep a day job until the money from the music exceeds the day job. Money comes first.


To make 50k a year as a musician is a tough hoe. If you do make 50, 49 of it wont be from selling music.

Sample: this is how a friend did it for a while, until studios went out the window, and people can find lessons on YouTube all day long.
2 gigs a week...at best. Maybe make 300 a week
Teach guitar, make extra 100 week, if lucky, and have steady clientele.
Make average of 200 week studio recording
Sales. Downloads, streams...... Cough

So 600 a week really busting it, and with a need for your services. Take away lessons and studio, and your down to 300 week doing gigs. And gigs are falling off too, and very hard to get steady gig week after weeks.

I say quit your day job, and get a better paying day job.

Then gig for beer money!

#1125259 - 03/12/17 05:21 PM Re: Songwriter Performance Royalties - Sad [Re: Trentb]  
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Originally Posted by Trentb
I say quit your day job, and get a better paying day job.

Then gig for beer money!


Exactly!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that idea.

#1125260 - 03/12/17 05:31 PM Re: Songwriter Performance Royalties - Sad [Re: DesireInspires]  
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Originally Posted by DesireInspires
Originally Posted by Trentb
I say quit your day job, and get a better paying day job. Then gig for beer money!
Exactly! There is absolutely nothing wrong with that idea.
I think you have to forget making money, at least until they find a way to make it work. Even so, it was never easy making money from music. Vinyl records sold, but you still had to be a major brand to make a significant amount.

Do it cause you like doing it. At least the Internet has one positive, some amount of people can hear you, before the net, you were limited to your inner circle, or getting on college radio, and doing gigs. Today more and more people get famous, but less and less make money off it

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#1125308 - 03/13/17 02:30 PM Re: Songwriter Performance Royalties - Sad [Re: DesireInspires]  
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Like I have said before, no one wants to pay the songwriter.

#1125321 - 03/13/17 05:29 PM Re: Songwriter Performance Royalties - Sad [Re: DesireInspires]  
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In commercial music history, Songwriters have fared far better than artists, especially in the USA where the largest pool of money exists. Radio in the USA pays only the songwriters. Band members who play in hit bands but don't write the songs (or the hits) make a miniscule portion of the money the songwriters do on a given hit song. Even online Songwriters fare better than artists, though at least the artists do get some money for online plays.


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#1125573 - 03/19/17 09:31 PM Re: Songwriter Performance Royalties - Sad [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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This has caused internal friction among band members in many instances. When there may have been significant input from the other band members, who did not get any songwriter credit.


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