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#1125334 - 03/14/17 12:58 AM Why so many one hit wonders?  
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Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with one hit wonders, I'd like to be one. I know the business being how it is, has something to do with it, but it seems like some bands can't seem to write anything close to their first bit.

I just heard Turning Japanese by the vapors, this is really a killer song, whether you want to admit it or not, the guitar work alone is freakin great, and it mixed Japanese musical motifs with punk rock. Just a very catchy song.

Just wonder why they couldn't write anything even close, is it the idea that everybody has one song In them. Dylan once said everybody has one song in them... Heck of a track for sure... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914

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That Ah Ha Song was and still is incredible......
I expected HUGE things from then and Nothin....
Who wrote that song ?

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Yeah I nearly posted that. That keyboard riff is amazing, and even the video is considered one of the greatest videos of all time, then boom, gone from existence! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914

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Do you know who wrote it and Produced it?
Who sang it.......I never heard a song like that since or before....
It's like some guys landed in a space ship.....did this song and then just got back on the ship and went back to wherever the hell they came from.....The Beatles probably landed here to as they were other worldly.....Thanks for the Cool Post....

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The Aha song is enjoyable, but it was the groundbreaking video that made it a worldwide hit at the height of when that was most important. Their follow up video's weren't nearly as interesting and thus they disappointed folks who quickly moved on. The song is straight pop, but the video was novel and novel songs often result in one hit wonders. Rock Power Ballads are another example. Fans often didn't care for what the band REALLY did, but loved the ballad which fans of the band often hated. "More than words" is a great example of that. There was a major disconnect between their usual fare, and that song and the fan bases were separated between the hit and their real sound.


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Seems every decade there are dozens of one hit wonders. how about the verve, they wrote this epic song, bitter sweet symphony, and you would think some other song would be even half as good, not the case.

And these poor guys not only we're one hit wonders, but got sued by the Rolling Stones for stealing the motif from she's a rainbow, and lost! A one hit wonder, who lost the wonder part.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyu1KKwC74

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Originally Posted by Trentb
Seems every decade there are dozens of one hit wonders. how about the verve, they wrote this epic song, bitter sweet symphony, and you would think some other song would be even half as good, not the case.

And these poor guys not only we're one hit wonders, but got sued by the Rolling Stones for stealing the motif from she's a rainbow, and lost! A one hit wonder, who lost the wonder part.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyu1KKwC74


The lawsuit was the reason for their disappearance. They lost EVERYTHING including the right to even perform it. The Stone's lawyer was one of the most powerful and nasty attorney's (just what you want if you are them) in the industry and they learned quickly they messed with the wrong band. That was one of the most devastating slap downs in what was the new era of Sampling in pop music. (Versus Rap where its very DNA is in sampling).

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Originally Posted by Trentb
Seems every decade there are dozens of one hit wonders. how about the verve, they wrote this epic song, bitter sweet symphony, and you would think some other song would be even half as good, not the case. And these poor guys not only we're one hit wonders, but got sued by the Rolling Stones for stealing the motif from she's a rainbow, and lost! A one hit wonder, who lost the wonder part.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1lyu1KKwC74
The lawsuit was the reason for their disappearance. They lost EVERYTHING including the right to even perform it. The Stone's lawyer was one of the most powerful and nasty attorney's (just what you want if you are them) in the industry and they learned quickly they messed with the wrong band. That was one of the most devastating slap downs in what was the new era of Sampling in pop music. (Versus Rap where its very DNA is in sampling). Brian
It's sad in a way, the stones don't need the money, and when you think about it, the stones stole most of their music from the early blues men. It's a revolving door. Still, doubtful they could write another song like that

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#1125349 - 03/14/17 11:24 AM Re: Why so many one hit wonders? [Re: Trentb]  
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Well,
Sometimes an artist will cover a Hit song and that will be the only song they release. Sonny James recorded a song YOUNG LOVE and it was a huge it. Tab Hunter covered it and also had a hit. A one hit wonder. But Tab Hunter was also an Actor so the majority of his success was elsewhere.There was a song ALL I HAVE TO DO IS DREAM, by the Everly Brothers, a big hit and covered by Richard Chamberlain also a hit but that was his only song he released and he was also an Actor so the majority of his success was elsewhere. Of course an Artist will have one hit and can't repeat it. It happens.


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Radio Payola was also a culprit. Artist has a big hit, the hands go out for way more money the next time. Don't pay up? Don't get anymore airplay, which prior to the internet was your only option, with a handful of historical exceptions.


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Originally Posted by Ray E. Strode
Well, Sometimes an artist will cover a Hit song and that will be the only song they release. Sonny James recorded a song YOUNG LOVE and it was a huge it. Tab Hunter covered it and also had a hit. A one hit wonder. But Tab Hunter was also an Actor so the majority of his success was elsewhere.There was a song ALL I HAVE TO DO IS DREAM, by the Everly Brothers, a big hit and covered by Richard Chamberlain also a hit but that was his only song he released and he was also an Actor so the majority of his success was elsewhere. Of course an Artist will have one hit and can't repeat it. It happens.


true, but a lot of bonfired one hit wonders don't even have a second halfway decent song!

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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Radio Payola was also a culprit. Artist has a big hit, the hands go out for way more money the next time. Don't pay up? Don't get anymore airplay, which prior to the internet was your only option, with a handful of historical exceptions.


Yeah, I'm sure the business end of it is a major reason for a lot of them.

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Rember this one? Lol. 20 million views on YouTube
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5uWRjFsGc

But what about their other songs.....?

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Those One hit Wonders don't even have decent second song? That's why I'm here! So they can have a second decent song! Most Artists can't write, some never wrote any songs. Geronimo!


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Lol there ya go. As I think about it, I think it may be that when you have one song that exceeds expectations, and is really unique, and gets played to death in radio, people are looking to hear something as good, which they can't do. I think when you rely on production your sound can get old very fast

Even Don McLean will never write another American Pie, for that matter Led Zepllin will never write another stairway to heaven, Billy Joel never write another Piano Man, The boss will never write another Born To Run. There is something to be said for having a steady career built on albums, not singles.

Cause in once you get pigeon holed into one song, unless you can outdo it, you could be done! Only the real rock and music stars can have sustained careers with ups and downs

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There's a million reasons this might be true. Fans and incredibly short attention span. Band, label, disagreements. Personality quirks. And overall things that just don't work out. The bigger question is why do certain things work in the first place? Very subjective and no one really knows what is going to work or not. So many of the writers and artists I have known over the years, didn't know the songs that became huge hits or even signature songs, were going to do what they did. They almost always believe one of their other songs would be the huge "pay off" songs.

Ray, I have breakfast about three days a week with members of Sony James' band. He didn't know either.

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I expect there are fewer "one hit wonders" than you think...The Vapors did do more than one album...and "Spring Collection" was a pretty good tune.

Gotta remember there are charts all around the world. Chris deBurgh was the #1 artist in Europe for several years, and is still popular here in Canada...yet he barely registerer in the USA...and primarily for Lady In Red.


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[quote=Marc Barnette]There's a million reasons this might be true. Fans and incredibly short attention span. Band, label, disagreements. Personality quirks. And overall things that just don't work out. The bigger question is why do certain things work in the first place? Very subjective and no one really knows what is going to work or not. So many of the writers and artists I have known over the years, didn't know the songs that became huge hits or even signature songs, were going to do what they did. They almost always believe one of their other songs would be the huge "pay off" songs. Ray, I have breakfast about three days a week with members of Sony James' band. He didn't know either. MAB[/quote


That's true a lot of time you read article...study the hits... How in the hell can you study hit sings? Once they are gone, they are gone. It's really uniqueness

Nobody has a song called turning Japanese. They nailed it, they just couldn't do it again

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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
I expect there are fewer "one hit wonders" than you think...The Vapors did do more than one album...and "Spring Collection" was a pretty good tune. Gotta remember there are charts all around the world. Chris deBurgh was the #1 artist in Europe for several years, and is still popular here in Canada...yet he barely registerer in the USA...and primarily for Lady In Red.


Yes that's true, I read the the guys who did Mexican radio, had other songs that were popular in other countries. But, why didn't they last as long as others, sometimes your talent, and your luck runs out

....But nobody talks about the other vapors album.

The point is, you would think that being signed, and having a hit, would give you a much better chance of having at least another successful album or song, more so than somebody who is just starting out, but not always true

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Just realized I didn't post the link to turning Japanese lol.

Enjoy!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LR4XNqrqxrU

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This one was all gimmick. The phone number was being called all over the country, and he even had a message in Chicago where he's from thanking fans for calling it.

But I tell ya, I have a hard time turning it off when I hear it in radio
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6WTdTwcmxyo

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This one is destined to be a one hit wonder, I like the song simply because it's fun, we need more songs like this around.
230 million views lol https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6JCLY0Rlx6Q

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Hey guys, I love it when you post something or mention something with people I have a connection with.

Trentb, Alex Call, who wrote 867-5309, is in Nashville and an aquaintance of mine. We've done a few shows together and he always does that song last. He talks about phone lines melting down all over the country due to people trying to call that number. I think in some states they wouldn't give out that number because of prank phone calls. I guess we all wish we could just have one of those.

I was talking about you guys today to a friend of mine, who played bass and toured with Sony James for many years, as well as having a few of Sonny's "B sides" on his singles. Ray, I was thinking about you and asked him his take on this subject. Sonny did have YOUNG LOVE and was a huge hit. He was sort of one of those heartthrobs of that era and that song was huge. While he did go on to have over 31 number one songs they weren't always in the same places, they might chart huge in some areas and not in others, but Young Love was always the one people knew him from.

But Sonny was a bit of a diva ,and while he consistently worked, he made it harder on himself politically than he could have. So probably did not receive as much radio airplay as he might have or been put on as many shows as some of his contemporaries. So personal issues, other problems come up in entertainers, their management, publishers, etc. that have an effect on overall track record, reputation, etc.

And of course there is always the fact of some people only have one really good song in them. Hard to figure out, but I really don't think it is just one thing. We do hear a certain trait in Nashville among hit writers. Sometimes you will see them at a show and they will play their ONE SONG that was a huge hit. But you hear their other songs and the leave a lot to be desired. So you might conclude that they had a really good co-writer (or co-writers) on their big hit.

Always a puzzling situation to ponder. Hope you all have a good day.

MAB

#1125426 - 03/15/17 01:41 PM Re: Why so many one hit wonders? [Re: Trentb]  
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Originally Posted by Trentb
This one is destined to be a one hit wonder, I like the song simply because it's fun, we need more songs like this around.
230 million views lol https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6JCLY0Rlx6Q

Wow, that a nice change up from contemporary dance music. A retro vibe but still entertaining.

#1125429 - 03/15/17 01:55 PM Re: Why so many one hit wonders? [Re: Marc Barnette]  
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Originally Posted by Marc Barnette
Hey guys, I love it when you post something or mention something with people I have a connection with. Trentb, Alex Call, who wrote 867-5309, is in Nashville and an aquaintance of mine. We've done a few shows together and he always does that song last. He talks about phone lines melting down all over the country due to people trying to call that number. I think in some states they wouldn't give out that number because of prank phone calls. I guess we all wish we could just have one of those. I was talking about you guys today to a friend of mine, who played bass and toured with Sony James for many years, as well as having a few of Sonny's "B sides" on his singles. Ray, I was thinking about you and asked him his take on this'l subject. Sonny did have YOUNG LOVE and was a huge hit. He was sort of one of those heartthrobs of that era and that song was huge. While he did go on to have over 31 number one songs they weren't always in the same places, they might chart huge in some areas and not in others, but Young Love was always the one people knew him from. But Sonny was a bit of a diva ,and while he consistently worked, he made it harder on himself politically than he could have. So probably did not receive as much radio airplay as he might have or been put on as many shows as some of his contemporaries. So personal issues, other problems come up in entertainers, their management, publishers, etc. that have an effect on overall track record, reputation, etc. And of course there is always the fact of some people only have one really good song in them. Hard to figure out, but I really don't think it is just one thing. We do hear a certain trait in Nashville among hit writers. Sometimes you will see them at a show and they will play their ONE SONG that was a huge hit. But you hear their other songs and the leave a lot to be desired. So you might conclude that they had a really good co-writer (or co-writers) on their big hit. Always a puzzling situation to ponder. Hope you all have a good day. MAB


Wow I never even realized the song wasn't written, by tommy tutone lol. We didn't have the net when this came out so we were on our own.

Yes, I believe there were even some lawsuits, where people with the number claimed mental abuse and anguish, but didn't think they should have to change their number...I don't think any of them actually won, the judges probably said, get a new number.

Lol, people didn't think in terms of area code, they dialed 8675309 wherever they were. Then I remember reading that the phone number was sold, let me see if I could find the article

Here it is. http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/02/02/ebay.jennys.number/index.html?eref=rss_us

Last edited by Trentb; 03/15/17 01:58 PM.

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