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#1121349 - 12/22/16 05:16 PM How does everybody record their songs?  
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I'm still using a cassette recorded with a radio shak mic attached to it. I fear that it wont sound up to snuff.

#1121351 - 12/22/16 05:32 PM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: BenJones]  
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I record scratch ideas directly to an iPod.
But, for release, I go to a friend's studio. He is a pro, with professional gear and a great ear.
If you want, though, you can always highlight the low-fidelity of your recording and use it as an aesthetic. Much like Guided By Voices.

#1121352 - 12/22/16 05:33 PM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: BenJones]  
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Well,
Since I am just recording "Work Tapes" I still use a cassette deck I bought back in 1996. I was using, of all things, a reel to reel Akai Tape Deck but it died after I recorded a Christmas song in late 1995. I still have it and it still plays tapes. I have a Stand Alone CD Recorder I use to transfer tapes to a CD when needed. No fancy setup. Just me and my Guitar and my $6.60 dynamic microphones I bought in the Far East in about 1960. If I want a better demo I use a demo service. Haven't done that in quite a while.

You can listen to some of my songs on the Web Site under Ray's Music at http://www.geocities.ws/fiverosesmusicgroup/


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#1121353 - 12/22/16 05:41 PM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: BenJones]  
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Thanks for the info. I will check out some of your music when I get a chance later on

#1121366 - 12/22/16 08:11 PM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: BenJones]  
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Ben,

I agree that your setup is outdated. I record on my computer using Reaper technology. I have a Tascam US 16x08 pre-amp/interface and a an Audio-Technica 4047 microphone. I have a bunch of other stuff too, but that would get you pro level recordings once you learn how to use it which is no mean feat! There are lots of YouTube videos that teach you how to record. I suggest you start with introductory videos by Graham of therecordingrevolution. Search for his page on YouTube. It's a long, strange trip.


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#1121372 - 12/22/16 11:14 PM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: Colin Ward]  
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I guess I'm somewhere between primitive and Neanderthal. I do my draft recordings on a little 4-channel Tascam "porta-Studio"; I'll usually do rhythm guitar, vocal, bass, and lead, mix it on the Tascam, convert t to an *.mp3 file, and then squirt it to the computer, where I'll have to boost the volume in Audacity.

Though occasionally the Tascam product sounds "radio-ready," that's very seldom--if I want a recording I can sell, or enter in a contest, I'll go into a commercial studio. The draft recording just gives me something to archive on Soundclick and "date stamp" for copyright purposes.

Joe

#1121394 - 12/23/16 09:11 AM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: BenJones]  
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Originally Posted by BenJones
I'm still using a cassette recorded with a radio shak mic attached to it. I fear that it wont sound up to snuff.



For a demo pitch to an artist, it might, if the song is there.

I record master quality recordings in a professional recording studio, and the reason is that today, the most realistic chances to make money are licensing songs to film, TV, and commercials ( especially commercials ), and they only take masters.

#1121395 - 12/23/16 09:31 AM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: BenJones]  
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DAW's: http://ehomerecordingstudio.com/best-daw-software/

And welcome to JPF Ben!

Best, John smile

#1121398 - 12/23/16 11:24 AM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: Colin Ward]  
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Originally Posted by Colin Ward
Ben,

... I record on my computer using Reaper technology. I have a Tascam US 16x08 pre-amp/interface and a an Audio-Technica 4047 microphone. I have a bunch of other stuff too, but that would get you pro level recordings once you learn how to use it which is no mean feat! There are lots of YouTube videos that teach you how to record. I suggest you start with introductory videos by Graham of therecordingrevolution. ...


A BIG thumbs up lightbulb on REAPER! I have a version of ProTools on my PC but I never use it anymore. ProTools is great for Macs/pro studios but for us Indie types with PC-centric bedroom studios you just can't beat the power and price of Reaper. It runs lean and mean on a PC and it's crashed on me ONE time in 1.5 years. Heck you don't even have to pay for it (but I would strongly encourage you do if you end up using it regularly - only 60 bucks, and we need to support little guys with great products). Instead of paying AVID a buncha money I saved money and was able to put it into other stuff I wanted.

I use Reaper with a RME UCX interface that I got cheap by buying it from the U.K. (saved 33%). I have one nice condensor mic (Mojave MA-200), and a handful of cheapie mics. I used EZ Drummer for my drums but I just picked up Superior Drummer 2.0 for 99 bucks in a Good Friday sale. Add my guitars and some odds n ends stuffed into a spare bedroom - that's what I use to write and record my tunes.

Peace,
TC

PS: +2 on Recording Revolution - Graham is a super nice guy and a good teacher.

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#1121420 - 12/24/16 01:56 AM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: BenJones]  
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Oh wow, TC and Colin...Reaper!!! I use Reaper too, and I thought I may be the only one. I just went shopping for a producer for the first time in my life, and could not find ONE guy who could take my Reaper project!! Everybody is like, sorry ProTools here, you'll have to rip .wav files. Lucky I'm an acoustic dude who can count the tracks with one hand. I've got the manual, but do you have any tips on exporting my project?

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#1121477 - 12/25/16 03:43 PM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: Jeff Epstein]  
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Originally Posted by Jeff Epstein
Oh wow, TC and Colin...Reaper!!! I use Reaper too, and I thought I may be the only one. I just went shopping for a producer for the first time in my life, and could not find ONE guy who could take my Reaper project!! Everybody is like, sorry ProTools here, you'll have to rip .wav files. Lucky I'm an acoustic dude who can count the tracks with one hand. I've got the manual, but do you have any tips on exporting my project?


You can render the individual tracks as .wav files and transfer them that way. If there is processing you want to keep, the best way to do it is to render your projects as stems. For instance, render all your percussion down to a stereo .wav file and this would be your drum stem. Do the same for other instrument groupings if there is anything you want to preserve. However, if you want to give your producer a completely free hand, then you would send him all the indivual tracks rendered as .wav files in the bitrate he wants. So, if he is working in 44.1 or 48 (or 96) send him the files as 24 bit (can't imagine he would be doing any other bit depth) in the sample rate he prefers. There is a way to transfer the entire project using translation software such as AATranslator but this probably overkill since the producer is going to want to do things his way.

I hope this helps.

Peace,
TC


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#1121478 - 12/25/16 04:25 PM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: BenJones]  
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Yes, what TC said.

If you are going to have the producer do all the mixing, turn off any effects on the track you are going to render to a WAV file. Turn off any effects on the mix buss. Then if you are in time with a click track, turn on snapping and make a time selection covering the entire song. That will insure that all the tracks are lined up when the producer imports them. Or you can leave the track effects on if you like what you have.

Then solo the first track and render it using the time selection, not the whole project. Give it a unique name. Then solo the second track the same way until you have all the tracks saved as WAV files. Send them to your producer and he can import them into Pro-Tools and everything will line up. You will have to use Hightail or Dropbox to send the tracks because they are too large for email.

Happy Holidays!


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#1121486 - 12/26/16 01:38 AM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: BenJones]  
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Started out my first two dozen recordings with .wav and playback from an outside device. My computer at the time could not handle audacity.
I started out on synths and since prefer trying to learn things hand fed since there is more that reflects me in it.
People don't always understand that, but I need more with my expression than what conforms to a program, even though I don't overlook form and what technology can give to be better understood.

#1121498 - 12/26/16 12:06 PM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: Colin Ward]  
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Originally Posted by Colin Ward
Ben,

I agree that your setup is outdated. I record on my computer using Reaper technology. I have a Tascam US 16x08 pre-amp/interface and a an Audio-Technica 4047 microphone. I have a bunch of other stuff too, but that would get you pro level recordings once you learn how to use it which is no mean feat! There are lots of YouTube videos that teach you how to record. I suggest you start with introductory videos by Graham of therecordingrevolution. Search for his page on YouTube. It's a long, strange trip.


Yeah Colin, I've learned a lot from Graham Cochrane at therecordingrevolution myself in mixing. Dave Pensado has a great site as well and he's mixed and mastered some Grammy stuff.

I moved from Adobe Audition to Reaper recently and love it. There's a bit more of a learning curve but it's 24 bit and I can upload new mixing and mastering software into it as well as Superior Drummer and EZkeys. Lot's of good features and tons of it's own plug-ins.

Stevie

#1121499 - 12/26/16 04:29 PM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: BenJones]  
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Using Logic Pro X here. With a plethora of 3rd party plugins, samples, instruments, an audio interface by Universal Audio and a small arsenal of mics. All powered by a diminutive computer known as the "Trash Can" Mac Pro.

p.s. Dave Pensado is great. He's also a funny human in person.

p.p.s. Would anyone like to know how I setup for a recording project?


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#1121509 - 12/26/16 07:03 PM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: Jody Whitesides]  
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Yes, Jody. Please.

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#1121595 - 12/28/16 04:35 PM Re: How does everybody record their songs? [Re: BenJones]  
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Lots of info in the question. Thanks all


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