Who's Online Now
27 registered members (couchgrouch, dan6001, Dave Rice, Brian Austin Whitney, 9ne, Fdemetrio, Calvin, David Gill, E Swartz, Everett Adams, 4 invisible), and 246 guests, and
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box
Member Spotlight
Michael W. Brown
Michael W. Brown
Gun Barrel City, Texas
Posts: 1,796
Joined: July 2009
Show All Member Profiles 
What's Going On
If I Pen a Masterpiece
by Dave Rice. 12/12/18 05:55 PM
Country Lyric/Music Writer Looking to Co-Write
by Walt Lamberg. 12/12/18 05:53 PM
Sometimes i despair at songwriting threads on FB
by Dave Rice. 12/12/18 05:39 PM
Muffler Thumpin' Noise! {better mix}
by Neil Cotton. 12/12/18 05:26 PM
World Chess Championship - 2018 - London
by Dave Rice. 12/12/18 04:20 PM
SONG TONE
by Martin Lide. 12/12/18 04:15 PM
Folks couldn't contain their indifference
by Perry Neal Crawford. 12/12/18 03:05 PM
Fort Mystery---A Novel
by Fdemetrio. 12/12/18 01:44 PM
Stuck Here At The Light - revised
by David Gill. 12/12/18 01:24 PM
SAME AS YOU INSIDE.Deej/Travis. REMIX.
by E Swartz. 12/12/18 10:33 AM
Don't Feel the Rain
by Ricki E. Bellos. 12/12/18 09:31 AM
Fantastic!
by Ricki E. Bellos. 12/12/18 09:21 AM
Lyrics and link together for Tribes of the World
by Travis david. 12/12/18 03:13 AM
Starting Today. ( Deej & Travis ) NEW VERSION
by Travis david. 12/12/18 03:07 AM
The Shiny Thing
by Scott Campbell. 12/11/18 08:55 PM
Barry Butler. (message posted. Please read thread)
by Colin Ward. 12/11/18 07:08 PM
Under Covers
by E Swartz. 12/11/18 06:54 PM
Winter's Show. Vic
by Vicarn. 12/11/18 06:46 PM
Army Navy today
by Perry Neal Crawford. 12/11/18 06:18 PM
APPEARANCES DECEIVE - A Lisa Gundling Song-Story
by John Lawrence Schick. 12/11/18 02:52 PM
The Same Remains The Same
by Vicarn. 12/11/18 12:28 PM
Be Your Own The Standard Bearer
by Neil Cotton. 12/11/18 11:58 AM
Country Cliché If Wishes Were Horses
by Perry Neal Crawford. 12/11/18 11:54 AM
Peace
by couchgrouch. 12/11/18 10:10 AM
Hold Happy Tight Right Now
by Neil Cotton. 12/11/18 09:45 AM
2008 Best Albums
by Martin Lide. 12/11/18 08:45 AM
Tribes of the World Unite
by Travis david. 12/11/18 12:40 AM
Time--guitar/drm loop-mx-5--no strings
by E Swartz. 12/10/18 01:32 PM
The Business of Cruelty
by Wendy D. 12/10/18 12:23 PM
The Apache
by Fdemetrio. 12/10/18 12:20 PM
Top Posters(All Time)
Calvin 19,672
Travis david 11,216
Kevin Emmrich 10,543
Jean Bullock 10,330
Kaley Willow 10,240
Two Singers 9,571
Joice Marie 9,186
Mackie H. 8,843
glynda 8,579
Mike Dunbar 8,574
Tricia Baker 8,318
Colin Ward 7,901
couchgrouch 7,447
Corey 7,357
Dave Rice 6,975
Wyman Lloyd 6,578
Mark Kaufman 6,437
Joe Wrabek 6,403
ben willis 6,095
Vicarn 5,918
Lynn Orloff 5,788
Louis 5,725
Linda Sings 5,604
niteshift 5,454
KimberlyinNC 5,210
Derek Hines 4,893
DonnaMarilyn 4,627
Blake Hill 4,528
Neil Cotton 4,485
Bob Cushing 4,352
Bill Osofsky 4,199
Cindy Miller 4,178
Tom Shea 4,173
TamsNumber4 4,032
Roy Cooper 4,013
nightengale 3,965
Caroline 3,865
Kolstad 3,784
Dan Sullivan 3,710
MFB III 3,687
beechnut79 3,458
Dottie 3,427
joewatt 3,411
Bill Cooper 3,279
E Swartz 3,229
John Hoffman 3,199
Skip Johnson 3,027
Pam Hurley 3,007
Terry G 3,005
PopTodd 2,887
Harriet Ames 2,870
Nigel Quin 2,810
MidniteBob 2,707
Nelson 2,570
Tom Tracy 2,558
Polly Hager 2,526
Jerry Jakala 2,524
Al Alvarez 2,499
Eric Thome 2,448
Hummingbird 2,401
Stan Loh 2,263
Sam Wilson 2,241
Judy Hollier 2,232
Erica Ellis 2,202
Wendy D 2,193
TrumanCoyote 2,096
Marty Helly 2,012
DukeWill 1,984
floyd jane 1,982
Clint Anglin 1,904
cindyrella 1,888
maccharles 1,881
David Wright 1,866
Clairejeanne 1,851
Cindy LaRosa 1,824
Ronald Boyt 1,675
Iggy 1,630
Noel Downs 1,620
Rick Heenan 1,589
Cal 1,574
Jack Swain 1,554
Pete Larsen 1,537
Ann Tygart 1,529
Tom Breshers 1,487
RogerS 1,461
Tom Franz 1,453
Chuck Crowe 1,441
Ralph Blight 1,440
Kenneth Cade 1,429
Rick Norton 1,428
bholt 1,411
Letha Allen 1,406
in2piano 1,404
Stan Simons 1,402
GocartMoz 1,396
mattbanx 1,384
Jen Shaner 1,373
Charlie Wong 1,347
KevinP 1,324
Vondelle 1,316
Tom W. 1,313
Jan Petter 1,301
scottandrew 1,292
DakLander 1,265
Ian Ferrin 1,230
PeteG 1,228
Glen King 1,212
IdeaGuy 1,209
Martin Lide 1,183
AaronAuthier 1,177
Diane Ewing 1,158
Gerry 1,112
summeoyo 1,085
joro 1,081
BobbyJoe 1,075
S.DEE 1,040
lane1777 1,038
yann 1,037
Tony A 1,016
argo 986
peaden 984
Wolvman 960
IronKnee 945
Jak Kelly 912
krtinberg 890
Drifter 886
Petra 883
RJC 845
Brenda152 840
Deej56 831
Nadia 827
9ne 813
Juan 797
TKO 784
frahmes 781
teletwang 762
90 dB 745
Andy K 739
tbryson 737
Fdemetrio 735
Andy Kemp 733
ant 732
Jackie444 731
3daveyO3 704
Dayson 703
Dixie 701
Joy Boy 695
Knute 686
Lee Arten 678
Katziis 652
R.T.MOORE 638
quality 637
CG King 622
douglas 621
Mel 614
Irwin 603
NaomiSue 601
Pat Hardy 599
Shandy 589
Ria 587
TAMERA64 583
qbaum 570
nitepiano 566
pRISCILLA 556
Moosesong 555
Tink2 553
musica 539
deanbell 528
RobertK 527
BonzaiWag 523
Roderic 522
BB Wilbur 511
goodfolks 499
Zeek 487
Stu 486
Steve P. 481
R&M 480
KathyW 462
allenb 459
MaxG 458
Philjo 454
fanito 448
trush48 448
dmk 442
arealrush 437
DGR 436
avweek 435
Stephen D 433
Emmy 431
Rob L 426
marquez 422
kit 419
Softkrome 417
kyrksongs 415
RRon 408
Laura G. 407
VNORTH 407
Debra 407
eb 406
cuebald 399
EdPerrone 399
Dannyk1 395
Hobart 395
Davyboy49 393
Smile 389
GJShades 387
Ezt 384
tone 380
Marla 380
Cecilee 379
iggyiggy 378
coalminer 377
java 374
spidey 371
sweetsong 370
danny 367
Jim Ryan 360
Alek 356
papaG 353
Z - man 350
John K 348
JamesDF5 347
Jaden 344
ddreuter 341
TheBaz 340
Steggy 339
leif 339
tonedeaf 336
rickwork 334
Eddie Ray 332
Johnboy 328
Bob Lever 328
Helicon1 327
lucian 326
Muskie 321
kc 319
Z. Mulls 318
ptondreau 313
ONOFFON 312
Chris B. 310
trush 304
ed323 297
Ellen M 293
lizzorn 291
nicnac49 290
pomeranj 289
Char 286
markus-ky 285
ktunes 285
Register Today!
Welcome to the Just Plain Folks forums! You are currently viewing our forums as a Guest which gives you limited access to most of our discussions and to other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post and respond to topics, communicate privately with our users (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free; so please join our community today!
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#1095072 - 11/04/15 06:55 PM Melodyne  
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,313
Tom W. Offline
Top 200 Poster
Tom W.  Offline
Top 200 Poster

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,313
I was not really sure what forum this would be best suited for but was curious about any experience anyone might have with using Melodyne vocal software. I like many of us, am not gifted with a pitch perfect voice or an amazing range. I recently purchased Melodyne in an effort to make my tracks sound a little smoother. I have never been a fan of auto tune witch makes vocals sound stiff and fake. Melodyne from what I've heard on many youtube demonstrations is capable of sounding a lot more natural. My first few days experimenting have been an eye opener. I have a lot to learn but it seems like a pretty powerful tool if used properly. Any thoughts or suggestions for its use?

Last edited by Tom W.; 11/04/15 06:58 PM.
#1095077 - 11/04/15 07:30 PM Re: Melodyne [Re: Tom W.]  
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 10,543
Kevin Emmrich Offline
Kevin Emmrich  Offline


Top 10 Poster

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 10,543
Crozet, VA
I use it for all my harmony vocals. I have gotten to the point to where my lead vocals are mostly on-pitch -- but my harmonies -- yuch! ... and I pretty much slam them with melodyne. But since they are harmonies, you can't really tell -- or at least I can't.

I only have melodyne essential which only works on single lines (editor works on polyphonic tracks). Editor would be nice, but essential works for me. I probably should sweeten my lead vocal lines also, but I haven't done that yet, I just keep singing them until I get it close enough.

Great tool!


"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The 'hard' is what makes it great."
Kevin @ bandcamp: Crows Say Vee-Eh (and Kevin @ FAWM 2018)
#1095079 - 11/04/15 07:46 PM Re: Melodyne [Re: Kevin Emmrich]  
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,313
Tom W. Offline
Top 200 Poster
Tom W.  Offline
Top 200 Poster

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,313
Kevin, thanks for jumping into the conversation! Yeah, I have alreday tinkered with making harmonies. As a backing track, they do seem to add a little depth to the original vocal on its own. The pitch correction gets it close but on both original and artificial harmonies there are always a few notes that have those unwanted artifacts. I've watched some of the on line tatorials and there are some methods and tecniques that can be used to smooth those areas out. I'm still on the slow learning curve but the good thing seems to be that these methods are pretty strait forward and easy to apply once learned. By the way, I only got Essentials as well. pretty much all I'll ever need I'm sure! thanks again!

Last edited by Tom W.; 11/04/15 07:47 PM.
#1095081 - 11/04/15 08:10 PM Re: Melodyne [Re: Tom W.]  
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 10,543
Kevin Emmrich Offline
Kevin Emmrich  Offline


Top 10 Poster

Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 10,543
Crozet, VA
Oh, I don't use melodyne to create the harmonies -- just to bring them in pitch. I sing all the harmony parts. Creating harmonies by pitch shifting the original vocal line makes the harmonies too perfect in timing (or I think that they would).


"It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The 'hard' is what makes it great."
Kevin @ bandcamp: Crows Say Vee-Eh (and Kevin @ FAWM 2018)
#1095084 - 11/04/15 10:00 PM Re: Melodyne [Re: Kevin Emmrich]  
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,313
Tom W. Offline
Top 200 Poster
Tom W.  Offline
Top 200 Poster

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,313
I sing my own harmonies as well but for the purposes of making them sound really tight, you can make some pretty cool backing tracks. you can allow them to still reflect a human touch by adjusting the level of pitch corection you want. I have not played out in many years and don't anticipate doing so in the future so it's more about just making a solid recording. For me harmonies have always proven to be a challenging endevour. Lets just say no one has ever acused mine of sounding too perfect so I supose that might be i nice change! LOL!

#1095090 - 11/05/15 01:21 AM Re: Melodyne [Re: Tom W.]  
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 497
TC Perkins Offline
Top 500 Poster
TC Perkins  Offline
Top 500 Poster

Joined: May 2015
Posts: 497
Virginia
I have Melodyne Assistant which I got on eBAY for about $150. Definitely check out eBAY if you buy (I am assuming you are doing the 1 month demo that Melodyne offers). If you get it from a reputable seller, it's the same as buying from their website and you will save a few bucks. I got the boxed version which comes with an instruction book and CD. The book is nice, I was able to have it open while I was figuring stuff out instead of switching windows while trying to read on the computer.

I believe Assistant has everything Editor has without the polyphonic capabilities. It's good for fixing minor timing issues as well as fixing pitch, and it's pretty natural sounding if you already sing okay and don't go nuts trying to make the parts perfect. As far as harmonies go, you can 'write' the harmony part by editing another harmony or the lead vocal track. I was unable to sing the highest harmony on the song I am working on now so I took the highest harmony I could sing and made a new file from it with the notes shifted where I wanted them. With the single note versions (e.g., Essential or Assistant) you obviously can't hear all the harmonies while you adjust the one you are working on. I haven't found this to be a big problem though; it just takes a bit more time to audition any changes.

You can open Melodyne and run it inside your DAW but I just run it Standalone. I have had some issues with stability running it as a 'plugin' plus it interprets the timing in it's own way which is a can of worms that I won't get into here. Granted that some of those worms are me being relatively new to the program, lol.

Anyway, I think it's a very useful program especially for someone like me who is a guitarist first and a singer last wink

Peace,
TC


If it has strings I will find a way to play it!

You can hear my tunes at https://soundcloud.com/tc-gypsy
#1095164 - 11/06/15 01:33 PM Re: Melodyne [Re: TC Perkins]  
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,313
Tom W. Offline
Top 200 Poster
Tom W.  Offline
Top 200 Poster

Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,313
TC,

I downloaded the "Essentials" version. It was only $69 on sweetwater.com. Like you mentioned, this version is only for vocal editing but that was all i was looking for. I have run it with both Apple Logic and Garage Band and it opens and opperates pretty smooth. The key I'm findind is less is for sure more when doing edits. Just enough corrections without making it sound too processed is the goal I'm shooting for. That's when your ears have to take over. So far though, I can honestly say it was $69 well spent!

#1095529 - 11/13/15 05:52 AM Re: Melodyne [Re: Tom W.]  
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 497
TC Perkins Offline
Top 500 Poster
TC Perkins  Offline
Top 500 Poster

Joined: May 2015
Posts: 497
Virginia
Originally Posted by Tom W.
TC,

I downloaded the "Essentials" version. It was only $69 on sweetwater.com. Like you mentioned, this version is only for vocal editing but that was all i was looking for. I have run it with both Apple Logic and Garage Band and it opens and opperates pretty smooth. The key I'm findind is less is for sure more when doing edits. Just enough corrections without making it sound too processed is the goal I'm shooting for. That's when your ears have to take over. So far though, I can honestly say it was $69 well spent!


I knew you would love it. Another thing I like about Melodyne is you can upgrade at any time for simply the cost differential between the version you own and whichever version you are moving to. This is a great policy, and I wish more music software companies did this. Rock on!

Peace,
TC


If it has strings I will find a way to play it!

You can hear my tunes at https://soundcloud.com/tc-gypsy
#1124255 - 02/18/17 06:46 PM Re: Melodyne [Re: Tom W.]  
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1
Glen Colbert Offline
Casual Observer
Glen Colbert  Offline
Casual Observer

Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 1
Baltimore. MD. USA
I actually use it most often to correct intonation on bass guitar tracks. It might be that I use a cheepo bass, but Melodyne tightens it up nicely.

Glen

#1124855 - 03/04/17 01:14 AM Re: Melodyne [Re: Tom W.]  
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 599
Pat Hardy Offline
Top 500 Poster
Pat Hardy  Offline
Top 500 Poster

Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 599
Most of the pros I know use Antares.

#1124860 - 03/04/17 04:35 AM Re: Melodyne [Re: Tom W.]  
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,454
niteshift Offline
Top 50 Poster
niteshift  Offline
Top 50 Poster

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,454
Sydney, Australia
Hey All,

There are very few people ( vocalists ) in the world who are pitch perfect. With the best vocalists I've ever worked with, I will still run a suitable programme, on very low intensity simply to "bed" the track. It's simply one of many production processes to make that track shine.

Would I use it on someone that can't sing ? NO WAY, it's a waste of time and effort.

cheers,niteshift

#1124876 - 03/04/17 02:56 PM Re: Melodyne [Re: niteshift]  
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 497
TC Perkins Offline
Top 500 Poster
TC Perkins  Offline
Top 500 Poster

Joined: May 2015
Posts: 497
Virginia
Originally Posted by niteshift
Hey All,

There are very few people ( vocalists ) in the world who are pitch perfect. With the best vocalists I've ever worked with, I will still run a suitable programme, on very low intensity simply to "bed" the track. It's simply one of many production processes to make that track shine.

Would I use it on someone that can't sing ? NO WAY, it's a waste of time and effort.

cheers,niteshift


It's true, melodyne is very good when paired with someone who can sing (at least a little). I suppose you could correct someone horrible but it would take hours and hours and it's not going to sound natural at all.

I don't know if any of you have tried this but melodyne is an EXCELLENT way of de-essing vocals; you can bring the highs up to get that nice cottony sound without it being harsh or sibilant. It took me awhile to get the hang of it but I was able to get a nice breathy sound on my last tune.

Peace,
TC


If it has strings I will find a way to play it!

You can hear my tunes at https://soundcloud.com/tc-gypsy

Support Just Plain Folks

We would like to keep the membership in Just Plain Folks FREE! Your donation helps support the many programs we offer including Road Trips and the Music Awards.


Membership
Join Just Plain Folks
to receive the free
JPNotes Newsletter!
*this is separate from
message board registration*

Newest Members
cat8mkl, MKLFIT, cocolili, joe222, WalterRWebb
21128 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums116
Topics118,507
Posts1,117,355
Members21,128
Average Posts Daily31
Most Online1,506
Mar 16th, 2017
Just Plain Quotes
"Parents are notorious for telling you not to do something, but not telling you WHAT to do instead. So here are my thoughts. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, give it a manicure. Don't burn your bridges, go out and build more! And of course, Don't run with Scissors, use them to cut out your press clippings!" -Brian Austin Whitney
Today's Birthdays
SCHinBC (56)
Popular Topics(Views)
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0