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#1087004 - 07/01/15 07:48 PM 7 Cool Tips for Writing Better Lyrics  
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Thought I'd share the article below that I just came across. I don't like to get too bogged down thinking about the mechanics of writing, so don't always read this kind of stuff, but these are all good tips. smile

I have to remember #6....Do your words sound good sung?" and...

"Lyric writing may be related to poetry but a lyric still has to answer to a singer. Itís not enough to tell a good story. The easier and more comfortable a lyric is to sing the more fun it will be for people to listen to. Then, and only then, will you have an opportunity to tell your story and have people listen. A tip to help you is to say the words back and keep track of your lip movements. If you stumble, so will the singer, so look for physically easier ways to say the same things."

That's not always easy to do, but necessary!

Here's the link: http://www.bmi.com/news/entry/7_tips_for_instantly_better_lyrics

Happy writing!

Kristi


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#1087008 - 07/01/15 10:01 PM Re: 7 Cool Tips for Writing Better Lyrics [Re: Kristi McKeever]  
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good little tid bits!Thank ya Kristi.Mike

#1087035 - 07/02/15 06:14 AM Re: 7 Cool Tips for Writing Better Lyrics [Re: Michael LeBlanc]  
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Very important list. I always check through those once I am finished.

#1087284 - 07/05/15 05:53 PM Re: 7 Cool Tips for Writing Better Lyrics [Re: AaronAuthier]  
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I've read the books. Time to write now.

#1087330 - 07/06/15 03:22 PM Re: 7 Cool Tips for Writing Better Lyrics [Re: Jim Colyer]  
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Hi Kristi:

Thanks for sharing these important factors. Goldmacher left out one very important factor: Write it down! Don't wait. We have too many distractions in our lives today. If you don't get it down on paper (or whatever) it will vanish rather quickly.

It does not have to be perfect. Be prepared for a long "siege!" Don't be afraid to scrap the entire thing and start over with your original song idea. Never throw a lyric away, bad as it may seem today, it may sound perfect next week or next year.

The same idea should apply to your recordings. No matter how simple or complex, save a copy of the original if you decide to head off in a different direction. Nothing wrong with experimenting but being able to return to your "starting place" is a great option.

None of this relates to the difficulties of co-writes. That is another subject and I won't go there on this post. It can be done but requires patience, diplomacy and time.

All the best, ----Dave

#1087578 - 07/10/15 09:41 AM Re: 7 Cool Tips for Writing Better Lyrics [Re: Jim Colyer]  
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Keep reading Jim, we constantly need to remind ourselves

More important Keep Re Writing

As learning song writers we can start beliving we have a finished article but oh so often it has aphrase or two or more that needs re writing

Sleep on that rough DEMO come back to it and you will hear the errors

As the lady states here It has got to sing and sing easily


One of the most important principles of songwriting is to remember that a good song is a partnership of many different components, all working together to produce a satisfying musical experience.

In that respect, song components are either enhancing or compromising their combined effects.
#1087588 - 07/10/15 12:08 PM Re: 7 Cool Tips for Writing Better Lyrics [Re: Cheyenne]  
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The phisoloper is back again. What's that they say. Go to College and get a degree then go out in the world and get an education. Before you write too much learn from the hard school of experience.


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#1088113 - 07/16/15 09:21 PM Re: 7 Cool Tips for Writing Better Lyrics [Re: Ray E. Strode]  
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Tip #8 = get your heart broken

#1088234 - 07/18/15 05:58 PM Re: 7 Cool Tips for Writing Better Lyrics [Re: Michael LeBlanc]  
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Good additions, guys! smile

Not "writing it down" and losing it, is the most frustrating thing ever! Or forgetting to hit "save as" on my computer. The idea almost never comes back (to me, anyway). cry


A musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write,
if he is to be ultimately at peace with himself. What a man can be,
he must be. -- Abraham Maslow, American Psychologist
#1092345 - 09/19/15 09:14 AM Re: 7 Cool Tips for Writing Better Lyrics [Re: Kristi McKeever]  
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