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They're no longer showing Miss USA & Miss Universe Pageants on NBC
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He will not be participating in The Apprentice. And they have dropped him as the boss in Celebrity Apprentice.
All this because he made derogtatory statements about Latin America and wouldn't apologize.
Univison has also dropped him.
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What HE Said was true....Many of the ILLEGAL Immigrants are criminals and who knows what else. THEY Are Coming after him with All Barrels Blazing as HE is a Threat to the Status Quo and is a Loose cannon and Actually says what he believes AND what others believe and are afraid to say.
I think HE is a Breath Of Fresh Air.....AND it's true that Many of our Jobs are going South but that's not Mexico's Fault it's the creeps in OUR Companies that are looking for $1.00 / hr wages and other free stuff. AND I don't blame the Businesses either but WE are getting squeezed in the middle trying to compete with salaries much lower than ours. This can't last.
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You don't get it Barry. You can't be a world leader and insult everybody. It's called diplomacy and it's what stops countries from going to war or damaging the relationship. It's like in real life you can't call your boss names without there being consequences. You say he is a breath of fresh air and maybe for you that's true. All I know is Trump won't be the Republican candidate because he is uncouth. He thinks his money is going to buy him the Presidency. He bragged about his money like it gives him the power to say whatever he feels like without consequences. He's your typical elitist who thinks he's better than everyone and everything. His interest is capitalism. He's a globalist. He is not the guy.
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Well Shucks, Better hope The Donald doesn't buy NBC! The American People agree with Trump by about a 9 to 1 Ratio. That is why they couldn't get Immigration Reform thru the Congress back in 2006. That is why our esteemed President is trying every way he can to give the Illegals a pass hoping the American people will give Amnesty to all the un-documented. Maybe in another 20 years! The shortest way, and the only way to Citizenship is go back to your own country and put in your application. If they like scraping the bottom of the barrel, fine, but no Amnesty.
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Well, Golly Gee, Since when is telling the truth an insult? I know Harry Truman was before your time Aaron but he used to say, I DON'T GIVE EM HELL, I JUST TELL THE TRUTH, THEY THINK IT'S HELL. The illegals are all hoping for Amnesty. Ain't gonna happen.
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That's not my point. As a leader you can't say people from a country are bringing drugs, they're murderers and rapists oh but there are some good people!
He's making the impression that most of them are criminals and unless he or you or barry have the facts to back that claim up then you're purposefully misinforming people you say this to.
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He is a bit of a loose cannon BUT in today's politics a loose cannon is somebody who actually answers a question and tells what he believes is true. I'm SICK of Politically Correct BS. Go Donald....and I voted for Obama twice...AND I'm pro life....lol all over the map...and even like Bernie Sanders. HE actually answers questions also....and they are making fun of him.
The TRUTH is a pesky word today.
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The truth is the truth. It's not what a person believes is the truth. It IS the truth.
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Regardless of any argument about truth in what The Donald is blowharding (dontcha love poetic license) he's nowhere near even being considered for the nomination. http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016repnominationHis history is against him, people see him for what he is...a rich dude after some self aggrandizing publicity, and he has a habit of being on the wrong side of the controversy he creates. He's not even getting close to a nomination as VP. IF, and ONLY IF, he delivers something of value to the GOP and the eventual winning team will he be considered useful to the degree he may get some kind of reward position in government...maybe he can be the Chief Citizenship Card Collator.
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I don't think the world could survive another Bush..
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I decided not to vote anymore. But if I did vote, I would vote for Trump.
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Ha, I guess Trump is in the same league as Berlusconi in Italy. There are some crazy dudes who wants to rule the world.
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Has anyone looked at the problems in Greece lately? Now Porto Rico is in the same boat. Broke. The U.S. has a National Debt of over 18 Trillion dollars and growing everyday. Today Obama is floating forcing more overtime pay for maybe about 5 million workers. The 29 Hour Work Week will now be No Work for another 5 million. And you thing The Donald is crazy! I hear China is also feeling the pinch. The best laid plans of mice and men!
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18 trillion is 1.08 times the USA's GDP. It has been far higher historically. During and after WWII and until the early 1950s it was in the 1.40 range
Not saying it's a good thing, just that you have to add some perspective to this number.
Greece BTW is 1.75 and Japan is over 2 times their GDP
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Trump said when doing a project you never use your own money.
If it fails you still have your own $.
This is who people want to run the United States.
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Say this fast ten times
Donald The Dunderhead Dumps a Drivel Filled Dumptruck in Tirade of Trumped Up Dung
Is this easier?
Donald The Dunderhead Trump Dumps Drivel
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Aw, well, As some of you know, I was in the U.S.Navy. Got it so far? Now, you would think, The Defense Department was in charge. No! not so, it was the Mess Cooks that actually ran the Navy! Now those Mess Cooke are in charge in Washington! When Trump get's there he's going to fire them! No kidding!
So who's in charge there Johnny? Your drummer?
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Macy's is no longer going to sell Trumps mens line of suits and sunglasses.
That was major $ for him.
Trump was on Foxnews last night and he is on CNN tonight.
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The article says Immigration and NEVER mentions Illegal Immigration. This is all going to backfire and Make Trump more popular in the Republican Party and with Independents. THIS MORING he is Second in IOWA tied with Ben Carson.
I'm telling you that People are SO FED UP with the Politically Correct BS that HE IS REFRESHING and telling the truth. To dismiss him as a boob and a circus clown is not going to work....it will make him more determined. HE may still run as an independent and I think there are enough pissed off Americans over SO MUCH HE could win. Dismiss him at your own peril.
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Haha if Trump wins the Republican nomination it's going to be an easy win for the Democrats. He's like Rob Ford. Popular amongst a tiny demographic and the rest of the country hates him. Wait until you see his numbers and polls of the full american public. It's not going to be pretty.
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Johnny, my friend, I remember all the horror stories you and Marnie would talk about regarding Donald Trumps actions. For you it is personal and hits home. I respect that.
I admire Donald Trump because he has guts. He sticks to his convictions, never backing down. Business and leadership is tough. Often the right thing to do is not always the most popular way to go. Trumps huge ego won’t tolerate failure and his track record for getting things done is impressive.
We have too many wishy-washy people in politics now, all changing their tune every time their popularity drops. Nobody with backbone. After the illegal immigrant comment, and the heat came down, Trump said I’m not going to apologize. He remained firm and accountable. Hillary and the others would have had damage control teams and spun their comments into a different direction.
Now if he is elected and cuts Medicare and social security benefits, I’ll hate his guts. But for now, he is breath of fresh air.
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I'm personally glad I did not dismiss him as a boob and circus clown.
That is such an insult to...and you have to see this coming....boobs and circus clowns
He might be a successful business man, and he is a great promoter, but to be president requires someone to have the stature of a statesman--respected, knowledgeable, etc. He is none of those.
Think bull in a china shop
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Interesting voting statistics in USA if accurate: Eligible voters: 206,072,000 Registered to vote: 146,311,000 Eligible voters not registered to vote: 59,761,000 Voted in 2012 election: 131,144,000 in which around 40% registered as Dems and 40% registered as Rep (most of which vote their party). It would be interesting if all the non-registered/non-voters would show up at the polls. I have a feeling there would be some radical changes. John
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Hillary is a disaster and a fraud. I voted for Obama and usually vote Dem. It's either Bernie, Trump or Nobody....B
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AMEN...He said that he will try and bring back some manufacturing jobs AND strengthen Medicare and SS. He is a totally Independent thinker and is not exactly what people think. His persona is a bit rough and is a loose cannon sometimes. BUT next to loose cannon in the dictionary it says TRUTH.....He is scaring the crap out of the status quo...and the mealy mouthed Pols that can't answer a freaking questions.
He has MY VOTE.
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Well For Sure, Trump has tons of experience in the real world. Hillary and (Bill) have tons of experience in Liberalism, Socalisim, Communisim, and stupidisim, And Taxing the hell out of the producers. That't why business has moved off shore. But, I digress, people voted for all those isims. Now the Chickens have come home to Roost.
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The immigrants who are criminals, etc., I am sure are the exception and not the rule. And Trump's banter was eerily reminiscent of things that were said about Jews prior to the Holocaust. But hopefully our Constitution, though not always the greatest, will prevent history from repeating itself here. And, referring to the comment about business moving offshore, do you think for one moment that the American people would put up with being paid one dollar and hour. There is no way anyone can come close to doing that, and it wouldn't really be an improvement over no-strings-attached welfare. I believe in self-sufficiency but with the current structure it is almost impossible for many. The whole pricing structure would need to be completely overhauled.
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about the manufacuring.. not gonna happen. NAFTA cannot be changed just like that. US would have to prove that the car manufacturing companies broke NAFTA rules to bring those jobs to Mexico. But he makes it sound so easy and possible to accomplish when he talks. He's full of it and he knows it.
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Too make it an even playing field with people making cheap wages we would need a tariff to even it out. We used to have them. WE can't fairly compete and that's not fair.
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Okay now think of doing it in a way that doesn't cause a trade war between the US, my country and Mexico..
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Va, Well, The people are going to ride that horse right into the ground. A dollar an hour? That may be optimistic in he long run. Ralph Kramden drove a City Bus in Brooklyn for 55 dollars a week. I got news for you, Ralph is still driving that bus for 55 dollars a week. Don't believe me? Been to the grocery store lately? You want the whole pricing structure overhauled? Good luck with that. Nero Fiddled while Rome Burned. Rome is burning brighter than ever. The economic situation is even worse for the illegals. And, the American people aren't going to give them Amnesty. No kidding. I know, I know. The Donald speaks the truth just Romney did last election. Did anybody listen? Have fun.
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Romney spoke the truth? This is a reminder what he said.
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney said in the video. "There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it."
"Forty-seven percent of Americans pay no income tax," Romney said, and that his role "is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
Ray, do you think your country should just let people die on the street? Apparently according to Romney 47 % of Americans would perish if it weren't for the Democrats. I bet Donald Trump has the same POV. He has made similar comments.
I guess this is where I differ from a lot of Americans. Universal Healthcare is essential. US needs a President to implement that. Obama care sucks it doesn't go far enough.
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See this is what happens when a government lets its citizens go bankrupt due to health bills, or they can't afford to see a doctor or have surgery. I remember all of the stories I saw a few years a go where people would put off going to the doctors because they couldn't afford it and then whatever was wrong got worse. These people couldn't work. It was like this all over the US. And then people of wealth call them lazy. Maybe some were able to work but didn't. US is not a healthy country. And now there is an obesity epidemic. People aren't getting yearly checkups so it's getting worse. Also add in to the fact that the US is a work until you drop country for the people who actually do work. It's a country that is anti union. Min wage is very low. You want a country that is the best in the world and purring like a lion? Your people need to be healthy and happy. A country of struggling, unhealthy people is a recipe for disaster and Donald Trump does not have the right answers to fix this just as Mitt Romney didn't. Obama somewhat understands this. Maybe the next Democrat President will further it.
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Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, We have something called The Constitution. Got it? The Constitution never made provisions for the Federal Government to provide Welfare for the Populous. That was left to the States. However the Liars and Movers sold the people a bill of goods and the people bought it! Great Programs were approved by the Federal Government that nobody is paying for. Hence we have an 18 Trillion Dollar Federal debt that the people voted for. Every Program is running out of money! You can use Greece as an Example. Obama Care has killed many jobs or less than full employment. You're like most Liberals, Aaron. you want to run the country but you want somebody else to pay for it. Nero Fiddled and soon the horse will be dead too. But the people voted for it, and it is they who will pay. All those Programs that were supposed to fix everything haven't worked. Good luck!
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The American People agree with Trump by about a 9 to 1 Ratio. I think this is funny! But I don't think it's true. I wonder where you found that statistic. But if true, then I would imagine Trump will easily win the Republican nomination. If 9 to 1 agree with Trump, hell, he's a shoe in! I think differently. I believe he has NEVER intended to win the Presidency. I think his candidacy last time was a publicity stunt that reinforced his "brand", and I believe his 2016 candidacy is a publicity stunt that just went badly wrong. 9 to 1 of Americans, I predict, will not vote for Trump...not as a nominee, nor as a candidate...and the other 1 of 9 will mostly vote for other people too.
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Your country has literally been resisting same sex marriage for the past dedade. And what for? How much money did you waste fighting it? I'm assuming it's in the hundreds of millions. Not to mention it's taken the spotlight while other more important issues were ignored. It's the same with abortion. The SCOTUS has already decided on that but yet hundreds of millions of dollars have been wasted fighting that at state and local levels. This is a trend. And I suspect that a lot of money is wasted like that on other issues. Then there is putting people with pot and minor drug offenses in prison. The war on drugs is a huge waste on money.
Healthy people are productive people. Maybe you should make me President. The first thing I'd do is rip up the constitution and I'd collaborate with lawmakers on making a new one.
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Mark, The 9 to 1 Ratio was about illegal immigration. When reading the boards on CNN before they shut is down you could find very few people that agreed with the illegals. Do you remember that incident in Mureritta, California, mis-spelled, when they tried to pawn all those coming across the border?
We should elect you Aaron President? What the hell do you think we have in there now?
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Obama is nowhere near as liberal as I am. This might sound funny to you but Obama is more of a conservative than he is liberal. Republicans even the moderate ones would be considered radical conservatives in my country and most of Europe/Asia & Oceania. Yeah Obama isn't a liberal. He's only liberal if you view life in an America-centric point of view.
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18 trillion is 1.08 times the USA's GDP. It has been far higher historically. During and after WWII and until the early 1950s it was in the 1.40 range
Not saying it's a good thing, just that you have to add some perspective to this number.
Greece BTW is 1.75 and Japan is over 2 times their GDP Those countries mentioned don't also have State and municipal debt to hide the real numbers - If you included just the States debt you have to add at least another 5 billion dollars and that puts the debt ratio over 1.2 and that 1.4 ratio included paying for most of WW2. As long as you mention putting numbers in perspective Russia's number is .11
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Glad you clarified that for us Aaron:
We did not waste millions of dollars resisting homosexual "marriage." Our non-elected Court Systems pandered to the super-left leaning "gays" despite the will of the people. I find it amazing that two Supreme Court Justices are Lesbians and did not recuse themselves from this latest travesty.
Our country (and yours too) was founded on Judeo-Christian principles brought forward from our mother country, England. The battle is far from over. When the Democrats are swept from power and the Judicial System here is straightened out, all of these illogical and heretical "laws" will be swept aside, returning us to a Nation of Law based on the Ten Commandments. Let us hope that your Nation will come to its senses and follow suit.
Marriage is an institution established to assure propagation of the species and to define human union different from that of the beasts.
If Homosexuals desire the same legal status to assure property rights, inheritance rights, etc., why not call it Civil Union? To call it marriage is an insult to the intelligence of our forefathers, centuries of them... and to those of us who believe in that sacred system.
Sorry for the divergence from your main topic, Mr. Trump. I believe we (conservatives) have better choices... but at least he speaks what he believes to be true... and that is a far cry from what we hear from Mr. Lead from Behind.
So, if Trump survives the debates and is the last Republican standing, I'll vote for him over any Democrat... especially St. Hillary.
Please don't misconstrue my statements as expressions of hate. I am simply stating my beliefs, reinforced by 200 plus years of National History plus our Colonial Period as guaranteed by our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Regards,
Dave
P.S.: Aaron, I'm so grateful you are a Canadian. God bless you.
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"Despite the will of the people" well the majority of americans that were polled in dozens of polls are fine with gay marriage. Majority wins. Sucks for you and the like minded but you're in the minority and it's here to stay. You won't get rid of it. By the time you can it will be a part of normal American life and my generation will be in charge. So that's not gonna happen. Just try not to think about it. Life will go on for you the same as it would if they voted not to legalize it country wide.
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wow quite a hot discussion here
DONALD TRUMP IS A PRAT and I bet he loathes his parents for naming him after a duck
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"Despite the will of the people" well the majority of americans that were polled in dozens of polls are fine with gay marriage. Majority wins. Sucks for you and the like minded but you're in the minority and it's here to stay. You won't get rid of it. By the time you can it will be a part of normal American life and my generation will be in charge. So that's not gonna happen. Just try not to think about it. Life will go on for you the same as it would if they voted not to legalize it country wide.
That's why we live in a constitutional republic and not a democracy. Democracy is like having two men and a woman on an island. One of the men makes a motion where the men can have sex with the woman whenever they want, regardless of her willingness. They put it to a vote. Men 2, women 1 and the law is passed. Majority rules. Democracy carries the day. In a constitutional republic, lawmakers are elected by the citizens to represent them by democratic principles in governing according to Constitutional Law. There are three coequal branches of government...the executive, legislative and judicial. Each has it's own duty so there is a balance of power. The legislative branch passes new laws and the executive branch's job is to enforce existing law and be the commander in chief of the military. The judicial branch is supposed to interpret the law based on the Constitution, not according to their own world view. Problem is, we now have activist judges and justices not only interpreting the law but making law in their own image. The legislative and executive branches can be replaced at the ballot box, justices can't. They are in it for life or until they decide to retire and are nominated by the executive branch, subject to Senate confirmation. We are not a democracy. I do find it interesting that you invest and expend so much emotional capital passing judgement on the USA and it's system of government, especially it's constitution and a good portion of it's citizenry. You mentioned that you would "rip up" the constitution and collaborate with lawmakers to make up a new one. We already have a president who acts like an emperor where the constitution is concerned so no thank you for your kind offer. Our founding fathers did quite well thank you very much. That's the kind of despotism they fought and died for to give us the freedoms we have although those of your ilk are trying to accomplish your goal here. I have a capital idea. Change your own country's system of government to suit you and leave us and ours alone. Steve
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It's always judicial activism when the ruling doesn't go your way.
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No. It's always judicial activism when the constitution isn't followed regardless of the party involved.
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Hiding behind the "constitution isn't being followed" is just a nicer but obvious way of saying you don't like it.
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Doesn't matter whether I like something or not. If judges or justices rule in a manner contrary to the Constitution they are overstepping their bounds.
Again, why your fascination in changing the system of government of a country you're not a citizen of? Why not spend as much energy changing your own government to suit you? That would serve you much better.
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