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#1049983 - 06/09/14 08:26 PM How do you use Velocity on drum programs?  
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So, a natural sounding drum track has varied velocity on every hit,
if you have the same force on every drum, you sound like a machine, so I wondered how any of you achieve your drum tracks using different rates of velocity...if you do that that is.

Tehcnially you would have to change the velocity on every snare hit, every hit hat, every kick drum, which can be daunting and hard to calculate, just wondered if anybody does this or do they just use it out of the box

#1049991 - 06/09/14 11:04 PM Re: How do you use Velocity on drum programs? [Re: Bugsey]  
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My drum program has a "humanize" feature which takes care of that. I make my own fills using a Korg Nanopad and create my own velocities!


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#1050053 - 06/10/14 01:34 PM Re: How do you use Velocity on drum programs? [Re: Colin Ward]  
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Thanks Colin. Yeah ez 1 had humanizing, interestingly ez 2 doesnt, Im not sure if its built in, but there is no button for it.

I dont think the humanizing does the same as actually altering the force of every hit. Remember every beat and fill were played one way, by one drummer in one small setting, like two measures at a time.

He might have been playing like a "rock drummer" and you might using his sample for a folk song, and so, his velocity would be too harsh.

I would say overall, most of the samples sound goodish, as is without any tweaking, but there are ways to make it sound like the drums were meant for your song, as opposed to many songs, but it takes alot of work to achieve it, but it should never sound bad anyway

#1050092 - 06/10/14 10:13 PM Re: How do you use Velocity on drum programs? [Re: Bugsey]  
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I used to either use humanize or manually vary the velocity about a decade ago. Since then I just use loops of real drummers playing.


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#1051617 - 06/28/14 09:10 AM Re: How do you use Velocity on drum programs? [Re: Andy K]  
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I'll use 2 methods the one is like Colin, I use my midi controller which has weighted keys so I can vary volume and the other method is I use a Yamaha DD65 electronic drum hooked up to with midi to usually session drummer but often use other drum synths like Addictive drummer.

I prefer the DD65 because I'm creating using actual drum sticks and get the natural variance in tone as well as velocity.

#1051670 - 06/29/14 05:51 AM Re: How do you use Velocity on drum programs? [Re: Sue Rarick]  
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I use two methods as well. One is to tweak the velocities of the loops when hearing it in the mix, and the other is to record the drums myself on a Roland edrums kit. Sometimes it's actually easier to get the feel you want by recording the part yourself, and you'll still have the option to tweak afterwards.

Often, the loops that comes with modern software is played by real drummers, and has natural velocities from that recording. Like loops from Toontrack. It still needs tweaking for the particular song, though, as all songs are different and requires attention to detail.

In some styles you also sometimes want the machine sound, like dance music and edm. So, in some cases it can sound off to adjust the velocities.


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