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#1050717 - 06/18/14 03:33 PM Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark  
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Hi Guys and Gals:

I'm not a fan of the Washington Redskins but I'm angry at the liberal, political correctness, nanny state Government repealing the Owner's of the Redskins long-standing trademark. Think about the ramifications of this. The same office controls copyrights for songs. Suppose you wrote a song 30 or 40 years ago (or yesterday for that matter) and they decide to rescind your copyright because some overbearing, thin-skinned, dippity-do idiot decided they were offended.

Does this bull-S#%* ever end? There must be more than 100 native American team names of one description or another. Then there are the Cleveland Browns. (Why not call them the Cleveland Greens?)

What a world we must constantly endure these days. We have a cowardly President, an idiot Vice-President, a do-nothing Senate Majority Leader and they sit around thinking about what's next for Political Correctness instead of what is best for America.

We had nearly won the war in Iraq and Big-Ears decides to pull out all our troops, leaving a significant vacuum there to be plundered by the Iranians and their toady Syrian Terrorists.

I pray for miracles to remove this scab of liberal manure from our once great country.

Dave

#1050718 - 06/18/14 03:49 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Dave Rice]  
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I am LIVID about this, Dave!

I live in the DC area, and I've been a fan since childhood. (I wrote a lyric about this issue last year too.) The Redskins actually play their home game in my state, because their stadium's no longer in DC.

Since this is also a local issue for me, I just called my senators and congressmen to ask them what they plan to do.

I spoke with someone in Senator Ben Cardin's office, and his office staff told me that he has been against the name.

I said, "that's fine that Senator Cardin is against the name. Everyone has the right to their opinions. HOWEVER, the federal government does not have the right to steal a corporation's property."

I asked what Senator Cardin's stance is on this, and he said that one hasn't been released. I said something like, "Senator Cardin is not able to form an immediate opinion about this? It's not that hard. His job is to uphold the law and this is clearly an abuse of power by the federal government." Cardin should be able to figure this one out in about three seconds flat.

I also called Congressman Van Hollen's office and he, too, has not yet issued a statement.

I ordered a pair of shorts and a shirt from the Redskins website just now too.

The Redskins have always been loved in this town. This is a travesty.

Thanks for posting your note, Dave.

Lisa


#1050719 - 06/18/14 04:16 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Lisa Gundling]  
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Yes Dave,
Just when you think you've seen everything something new pops up. I think the Miami, Ohio University used to be the Miami Redskins but they changed their name to the Redhawks probably because of pilitical pressure. I think a lot of American Indians could care less if the name is changed. It is the Cleveland Indians. Here we have the Altanta Braves, Some college is named the Chippawas, and so it goes. America it's self was named for something or someone I don't recall. I believe the Owner of the Redskins said there is no way they are going to change the name.

Who would have thought we could have a president more incompatant than Jimmy Peanut. It has happened. I see his foreign policy poll has reached a new low. What next?

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#1050722 - 06/18/14 04:59 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
There must be more than 100 native American team names of one description or another. Then there are the Cleveland Browns. (Why not call them the Cleveland Greens?)

The Cleveland Browns were actually named for their first coach -- Paul Brown.
Although you might have a point with the Cleveland Indians.

Just sayin'.

#1050727 - 06/18/14 05:19 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: PopTodd]  
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Thanks Pop T.:

My reference to the "Browns" was rhetorical. If I were King... every team could keep their name as long as it did not offend me... LOL!

All the best,

Dave

#1050732 - 06/18/14 05:40 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Dave Rice]  
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I guess it's time to ban all the old Westerns. I reckon the powers-to-be could bleep-out all the offensive dialog. Though often the Native Americans in old westerns are portrayed as savages. All kidding aside, political correctness is out-of-control.

John

#1050734 - 06/18/14 05:44 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Dave:
I think you should know that THIS Liberal (me) finds this development quite troubling, as well.

I brought up the free speech issue, and a friend of mine reminded me that the team could call themselves whatever they wanted to, they just couldn't profit from the name. So, technically, there is no offense to the First Amendment.

However, in this case, as much as I would like to see the name go, "technical" isn't really cutting it for me, either. It's a little bit scary.

#1050740 - 06/18/14 07:31 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: PopTodd]  
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Folks,

Freedom of Speech means ALL SPEECH... as soon as OFFENSIVE speech is censored, then ANYTHING that offends ANYONE in power is not safe. Soon the Govt. will have to "approve" of your creative output, which means all art will have to be GOVT POSITIVE PROPAGANDA! This is where the Russian people and the slaves of the Soviet Empire found themselves. They had amazing artists of all types but all their art had to be APPROVED by and had to FORWARD SPECIFIC IDEALIZED SUPPORT of the SOVIET UNION!

Folks, regardless of how you feel about the Redskins, this is more than a slippery slope... this is a full blown avalanche. The better way for people to show their dislike of speech is to keep government OUT OF IT, but instead let the marketplace exact the punishment. If people keep supporting it and buying their gear, then the people have spoken about FREE SPEECH. Their FREE SPEECH would indicate their support of that name. If they stop buying tickets, wearing shirts or hats and the like, then there would be punishment, NOT FROM GOVERNMENT, but from the people.

So going forward, all trademarks are forever CENSORED by the government. Soon, if you don't support the current administration and their beliefs (no matter the party) your free speech, art, trademarks and patents can be taken away.

Sad. Very Sad.


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#1050750 - 06/18/14 09:09 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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Hi guys, this sounds interesting, but what is it all about? I live in Trinidad & Tobago so I am totally clueless.

Why is the name being changed?
What is offensive about it?
Who is offended?
Why are they offended?

#1050752 - 06/18/14 09:15 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Stephen John (singch]  
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not many saints on The New Orleans Saints team either.

#1050754 - 06/18/14 09:30 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Michael LeBlanc]  
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Hi Stephen:

There are a few Native Americans (some call them Indians)and they have lodged a complaint with our liberal government. They do not represent a large percentage of their people but with our sissy-pants government, it does not take much for them to over-react. The name of the team for many, many years... has been the Washington Redskins. Now suddenly, the Copyright of that name has been rescinded by bureaucrats due to pressure from unknown Democrats in power.

To some, calling an Indian a Redskin might be considered offensive. To other Indians, it might be a source of pride. In the early days of this English Colony, the very mention that Redskin Warriors were coming created great fear among the colonists.

As Brian has stated, this is simply an attempt to encroach upon our freedom of speech. If the current administration had been in power during World War II, we would have surrendered immediately. Crooks and cowards are easy to find in Washington, D.C.

Dave

#1050757 - 06/18/14 09:33 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Stephen John (singch]  
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It's been a subject of small controversy for a long time, If i were American Indian, I might be offended, when Im facing teams with animals as names, and Im supposed to be a person.

I think it;s a bigger controversey now because we have an African American president, who also btw, is very into sports. He has has spoken about many sports and rules and wanted to "fix" those issues too, namely the BCS system in college football

I dont know anybody ever complaining about Notre Dame being called "The Fighting Irish" Irish people have had the rap of being drunk and disorderly and that name kind of represents that too, IF, somebody cares to take it that way.

I suspect that it was never a big issue before, because American Indians are not Footballs big ticket people, and im sure they dont buy Direct TV like other people do. So possibly the owners felt like what do I care, they dont come to games.

Truth being told, the name Redskins doesn't come from the color of their skin. it's an old Cowboy and Indian term givin to Indians because of the red paint they wore on their faces, chests and arms. Now, im sure down the road it got more derogatory and people used it as put down.

The owner of the Redskins insists that his name was a name of honor and pride, not derogatory, and I believe him.

Cleveland Indians....? They play against The Yankees. and thats supposed to depict some sort of civil war?

Atlanta Braves versus the Detroit Tigers, The Brave is an indian as well, and hes reduced to animals status?

This is such an issue, but you have gang symbols everywhere, swastikas, are all these groups going to be out of business? it be nice, but Im thinking not.

The more we talk about race, the more people get ticked off about it. It's a baby state, a nation of whiners and complainers.

I dont endorse the name Redskins, im sure id feel differetly if I were Indian, but I dont think it's an issue so pivotal in America right now, we got bigger fish to fry...appologies to the fish, dont you guys start complaining now too.


#1050761 - 06/18/14 10:58 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Michael LeBlanc]  
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Stephen,

I can't explain our entire history, including our FREEDOM OF SPEECH Constitutionally protected right, but in the USA we are guaranteed the right of FREE SPEECH. This means we can say what we want, even if it is unpopular. Protectors of Free Speech are usually the first to say that you must work just as hard to protect someone's right to unpopular speech as you would for the most popular speech. Because by not protecting even the worst speech, you put at risk ALL FREE SPEECH! This is now a case where the US Government has decided that one Trademark offended them (which has been in place since early last CENTURY without issue until this overly PC insanity has taken hold where if any person is upset by anything, people cowher in front of cries of racism, or sexism, or any type of level of bigotry (which could just as easily be applied to not liking someone's hair (or lack of it) or weight or what job they do or what political party they prefer... and those things are coming eventually if the people in power deem it so) and what happens is speech is less and less and less for fear of upsetting those in power (like questioning what they are doing... we already have a black out of what is happening on the US Border where news people are not allowed to speak with anyone who has crossed the border nor can anyone involved speak to anyone to tell the truth of the matter directly because it would expose what our government is DOING to our country for political gain). Free Speech is DEAD as of this ruling. People in POWER now will wield this power to serve their will until we blink and our country is as limited as China or Russia is to the truth of the world.

This is literally the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of our nation. Unless it is overruled by saner minds in court, it's over folks.


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#1050762 - 06/18/14 11:00 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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Next they will come after the state of Indiana so we'll be called Ana. And the city will be Polis.

Idiots and anti-Free speech Authoritarians hand in hand on this.


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#1050763 - 06/18/14 11:14 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Iím pretty easy going since getting all worked up really doesnít accomplish anything. But living in Herndon VA for twenty-five years, 5 miles from the Redskins training camp, the Skins are near and dear. Many were neighbors and their kids played with mine.

This really makes no sense. It's not their job!

It is not the job of the copyright office to pass judgment on what is trademarked or copyrighted. Their job is to make sure nobody else has claimed the right and then issue a document giving ownership to the holder. Thatís it. To Brianís point, let the public pass judgment by not supporting the products. In the past they have given copyrights to weapons of mass destruction, suicide machines, home abortion kits and how to make bombs, yet now find the name redskin a problem.

This is really bad,folks especially if not challenged. Think about everything that has a copyright or a trademark. Being a baby boomer and growing up in the Flower Power, Make Love not war 60ís I really thought my generation would ďget itĒ. I was so wrong.

#1050764 - 06/18/14 11:39 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Iggy]  
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I can assure you, NOTHING will stop people from supporting their sports teams, they have already survived murderous players, wife beating players, pistol carrying players, drug doing players, dui having players, and now gay players.

Players could literally murder somebody on camera, and so long as he catches TD passes, nobody cares.

Michael Vick was treated like dirt initially for his dog fighting ring, and people protested when The Eagles gave him a second chance, he went on to have a great season, and the people loved him again.

Sports transcends just about anything, espeically in Philly, Boston, NY

#1050765 - 06/18/14 11:39 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Iggy]  
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man i hope they don't take my Aunt Jemima or Uncle Ben off the market,i love that stuff!And what about those peanuts they call #@&^^*# toes,those are awesomw too!No more Jews Harp either!And we can't look at the Star Of David any more,some of us!I thought when Aaron Neville did his cotton commercial that was awesome!So are we going to stop calling Crackers,crackers?What about a spade,can i dig with a spade anymore?What about white bread?....

#1050766 - 06/18/14 11:46 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Iggy]  
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Gheezh,
I didn't know being Politically Correct was so hard! A while back there were some out of towners, I think complaining about the Stars and Bars, the Confederate Flag being flown over the Capitol in Alanta. If they hadn't mentioned I would have never known about it. However to appease the complainers the Governor had it took down. Who cares. Nobody but the politically correct. You can't fix everybody's complaints no mattter how hard you try. As soon as you fix one thing, somebody will come up with something else. A decade or so ago there were complaints about Christifier Columbus!

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#1050768 - 06/19/14 12:19 AM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Ray E. Strode]  
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By the way, this actually isn't the first time this crap has happened.

In 1999 I think (I am going from memory, look it up to make sure folks) they did the same thing. That was at the end of another leftwing regime in power (and the era that STARTED political correctness craze, even though some would say the Pres. at the time was one of the biggest violators of not only this over the top brand of PC, but common decency in office, but I digress). Fortunately, when anti-Clinton mood swung back across the nation, the courts agreed with the Redskins lawyers that the patent/copyright offices had no standing in the matter and thus no right to rescind anything. We can only hope now that the polls have swung against Obama and his regime, that sanity will once again reign in this anti-free speech nuthouse in power and will reinstate the rights of the owners of the team. Then, I am totally fine with fans deciding whether to support it or not. I couldn't care less what the name of the team is, as long as free speech is protected. Use free speech to get rid of the name if you wish, just don't use Leftist/Communist regime tactics and take away free speech to do it.


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#1050790 - 06/19/14 10:40 AM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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If this wasn't so serious it would be laughable.Our freedoms are being taken away a little at a time.I even wrote a song about it called "Where has all our freedoms gone".

We are just as silly here in Canada.In my home province, a school,that use to be a religious school, was forced to take down a cross because ONE person was offended by it.99.99% of the people said it could stay,they were not offended by it, but down it came.Does this sound like democracy to you?We are being set up for a one man rule.

#1050794 - 06/19/14 11:28 AM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Everett Adams]  
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I'm pleased to know that so many of you are concerned about this travesty. It won't stop here, you know. These uber-socialists are hell-bent on changing America to "fit their idea of what a state without God" will be. I'm not a zealot but my tolerance of things I consider way over the top of human decency and traditional American ideals is being stretched to the limit.

The IRS scandal has reached a new low with the intentional erasure of Ms. Lerner's Emails... and then the trashing of the hard drive she used by some I.T. minion. In any competent administration, these records would have been seized by the FBI and checked out thoroughly. Does the name Eric Holder come to mind?

I'm sorry but it is time for the American People to rise up and demand that mass resignations begin on a broad scale by the Democrats in power. Obama will go down in history as a charlatan hiding behind the mask of a fool. Let the impeachment process begin. The only disquieting thing about that possibility is the no-brained idiot who would replace this President who believes he is above the Law of the Land. A true American Pharoah.

Can you tell I'm unhappy about all this?

Back to songwriting... at least I can control what I write and think.

God Bless America!

Dave


#1050795 - 06/19/14 11:38 AM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Um,Well,
I had forgotten about those #%^&**Toes! Guess Political Correctness has a long way to go! I have often accused the current adminstration of trying to Re-Invent the old Soviet Union where the State controlled everything. My Gawd, I haven't been paying enough attention!!


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#1050887 - 06/20/14 03:10 AM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Ray E. Strode]  
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Folks, ban together with like minded Liberty folks, just like we do here at JPF. Find Liberty websites, like the two I work for so far, with a third one, (a really big site for liberty), going to be using me for my editing work.

The ones I work for are: Marc Clair, (great guy) of "Lions of Liberty". And another great guy, Robert Wenzel, (with him being an economist for his EconomicPolicyJournal site).

And of course, The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity, where it looks good for me to soon be part of the podcast team for one of Paul's directors.

At those and other sites with people like Ben Swann, who left mainstream media due to him being censored in the US when in Mexico just telling the truth of events and situations, you can find many others with the same concerns and resources/info to do something about things as a group, if not by yourself too.

The copyright office obviously got pressure from their neighbors in "those" other buildings, which is not what the USA is all about! At least for We The People as declared. It has become a country of Them, and Fk The People. NOT what the constitution directed the leaders and especially the people to follow. So, it is our full obligation to make notice that their practices are against their predecessors document as to what to protect.

I urge everyone to look into Liberty driven writers, hosts, directors, news people, (like Marc Clair, Robert Wenzel, Chris Rossini, Ben Swann), etc., to not be alone in any of this, and other issues that the social control minded government has in mind. Look what Brian did for us indies! Seek like-minded Liberty sites as well.

Learn more and do more! Just like here at JPF! How many have done more because of simply being on this site once in a while? SEE?

Lions Of Liberty's Marc Clair
Economic Policy Journal's Robert Wenzel
Chris Rossini (my son-in-law too)"Set Money Free" book July 4th
Ben Swann
Lew Rockwell
The Ron Paul Institute

Etc.! Band together with others, wherever!

Get Active, or Allow Government Actions to Take Over More and More.

Maybe seek out shows to do what I do, or for any number of things your talents could be some assistance for like minded types in liberty matters. If you better their shows, their shows get better! They will then gain more listeners! I proved that with taking a show that the host knew nothing on the audio side of things. I reached out and did a show for free just to show what his show could be like, not just sound wise, but overall production wise, with properly produced intros, outros, effects and promos. (For promos, I produced them too with creating music for them, and even doing a voiceover for a current one for my son in law that is getting around).

Offer up your talents, along with whatever else you want to do to try to change the current establishment practices of lessening freedoms. Do something once for free, to demo what you can do. It worked for me! Twice! I get paid steady for the help I am doing for those sites I am with. Now I have others wanting my work. It ALL helps the cause of getting the word out there about our Liberties, so we can do more, not just complain.

"Get Busy With It"! smile



#1050939 - 06/20/14 05:33 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Johnny Daubert]  
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Our society and all of the media have embraced conflict. Conflict is found in every TV show and every newspaper article. If someone gave us all a million dollars, some media moron would find a way to introduce conflict to create drama and sell papers, magazines or blogposts.

Not only is the government interference in this situation ridiculous (got nothing better to do?), but the name is not even offensive. Just that some damn lawyers have found a way to make a bunch of money from taking it to court. Probably had to pay some Native Americans to complain.


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#1050943 - 06/20/14 06:40 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Colin Ward]  
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Hi Colin:

You "nailed it" perfectly. Lawyers and politicians. What a dangerous mix!

Regards,

Dave

#1050952 - 06/20/14 08:01 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Redskins? Really? I thought they were the deadskins!! grin

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#1050965 - 06/21/14 12:23 AM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Paul H. Gaines]  
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It will all come out all right.

The last time this happened, the courts reversed their decision. Furthermore, the fact that registration was revoked does not mean they cannot or will not use the name or that they cannot enforce their ownership rights against those who might produce "knock off" products.

Just like your music is your when you create it it, and your ownership rights can be enforced under Common Law, the same is true for a trade mark. The fact it is registered only provides "Prima Facie" evidence of ownership, just like registering your copyright. But the fact is, it is yours the minute you start using it in association with your product or service

Is it disturbing? Yup. Is in any more than symbolic? Doubt it



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#1050975 - 06/21/14 01:32 AM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: John Voorpostel]  
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Hi John:

Glad to see you "weighed in" on this thread. I hope you are right about this. Symbolic, probably... and very common to our current administration. I call him "Captain Hubris." My greatest hope is that this and the trail of misguided errors this fool has been responsible for creating will bring him down... much like Richard Nixon. Rather poetic justice, don't you think?

Cheers,

Dave

#1050988 - 06/21/14 11:01 AM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Dave Rice]  
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John,

I don't know if you've ever heard of Mark Levin, but he debunked it all using among many things the same Common Law argument you did. He wrote an excellent book (among MANY excellent books he's written) called the Liberty Amendments which I highly recommend. It's short but critical that people understand the importance of them and how much danger they are all in, including Free Speech.

This is simply a feast for the US Left Wing Media as well as a money raiser for the Right wingers who are screaming about the end of Free Speech and Property Rights by faceless bureaucrats.

The media, the lawyers and the politicians all know how to manipulate us in mass numbers. They turn us against each other so BOTH sides can rob us blind and take more and more power over us. It may take an American Revolution Part II to fix it all. That would be the bloodiest war in human history. It's a sad situation coming down the road I fear.

Brian


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#1050994 - 06/21/14 11:59 AM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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Um,Well,
There is an old saying out there LET SLEEPING DOGS LAY. When you start sturring something up you never know what may happen. In this case it may start the reversial of many "Political" things that people thought were settled. My Crystal Ball is extremely muddy but I suspect our "Liberal" friends are in for a rude awakening in November.

Last night I had a crazy dream of going somewhere with all kinds of obstacles in the road bridges or what not. Not sure where I was going. Around the end of it there was a musicial group of artists singing my name in a song! I never heard of them and i'm sure they never heard of me! But it was just a dream. Maybe my "Musical Career" is about to pick up!


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#1051000 - 06/21/14 12:18 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Ray E. Strode]  
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Here is a good read Brian (et al) It actually looks at the Revolution 2.0 scenario you are talking about


http://www.theguardian.com/environm...e-revolution-conquer-one-percent-cia-spy


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#1051025 - 06/21/14 02:16 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: John Voorpostel]  
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Whether the Redskins will or will not weather this storm is, I think, irrelevant.

If a weak government official took a baseball bat and started beating a strong, large man who did nothing wrong, we might say, "well, he can take it. He'll be okay."

But if we find out that the act was sanctioned by the government, the issue goes far deeper than whether this one man could survive the beating. Maybe the next victim won't be able to survive. But even so, the issue at hand would be government's abuse of power.

This trademark issue has me chilled to the core.


#1051030 - 06/21/14 05:17 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Lisa Gundling]  
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I'd like to see Mr. Schneider propose a name change to the Foreskins and use a well known politician's profile for a logo.


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#1051053 - 06/21/14 09:33 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: John Hoffman]  
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Besides politicians, we should worry about the egotistic Government bureaucrats in Washington. They're given power with impunity and do the dirty work for the politicians. Look at the IRS scandal. It's high time for a house cleaning.

#1051056 - 06/21/14 10:22 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: ben willis]  
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Hi Ben:

I could not have said it better! Let's fire all of them and start over from scratch... LOL! I wonder where I can find a government job? They get paid even when they are being "sidelined" during an investigation. What a racket!

All the best,

Dave

#1051059 - 06/21/14 10:36 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
Hi Ben:
I could not have said it better! Let's fire all of them and start over from scratch... LOL!
Dave


Fire them? Are you kidding Dave? They need to be in jail! Starting with Lois Lerner.

#1051060 - 06/21/14 10:43 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: ben willis]  
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Sorry about changing the subject, but it's relevant.

#1051277 - 06/24/14 06:54 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: ben willis]  
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I heard they are taking "Washington" out of the name for the same reasons.

#1051289 - 06/24/14 10:32 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Rick Heenan]  
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Hi Ben: If only I were King! Heads would roll!

Rick: Thanks for your input. Maybe all this will fade into the woodwork and the Redskins can remain the other team the Cowboys love to hate... LOL!

Regards, Guys...

Dave

#1051590 - 06/28/14 12:11 AM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Wow, very interesting Brian et al. But won't many of your teams and businesses also have to change their names?

#1052009 - 07/02/14 01:23 PM Re: Government Rescinds Redskin's Trademark [Re: Stephen John (singch]  
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Hi SJ:

Who knows where all this idiocy will end? Probably after the next Revolution of the planet Venus. Not all Yanks are lunatics but that element of our population seems to be growing.

Wishing you the best and thanks for your interest.

Dave


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