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#1040190 - 02/21/14 04:27 AM Plain Recordings  
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I like doing recordings from a mixer or sometimes just through the line-in on .wav and Audacity software.
I feel comfortable and can do what I want within that.

Is there software to clean up whatever noise issues there may be with that plain of a setup?
Noise is minimal in my recordings but I would like it that much more spotless.

#1040951 - 02/28/14 12:35 PM Re: Plain Recordings [Re: R&M]  
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Search for noise gate VST's

I added free to the search and this was the first link that showed up: http://www.wavosaur.com/vst/noise-gate-plugins.php

Floorfish if it's like it's other vst bretheren should work quite well.

#1041017 - 03/01/14 01:28 PM Re: Plain Recordings [Re: Sue Rarick]  
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Hey R&M,

One of the problems is not enough "headroom." That means you can't record loud enough to make the noise so low that you can't hear it. The bit depth tells you how much headroom you have. CD's have 16 bits (it's kind of like having a volume knob that goes to 16) but when you record, going to 16 makes it more likely that you'll drop down in volume to where the noise is. Recording at 24 bits ( something like getting a volume knob that goes to 24) then you can keep the volume levels up near the top without getting too hot, but they won't drop down to where the noise is. (This is an oversimplified explanation, but it's close LOL.)

Here's how to change Audacity's bit depth: http://www.ehow.com/how_8353653_change-bitrate-audacity.html You don't need to change the bit rate to stop noise, but this shows bit depth as well.

If you run at a bit depth of 24 and don't record with the volumes too loud or too soft, you won't hear as much hiss and buzz. Then, though, when it's time to make a cd or an mp3 you need to convert to 16 bit. Your cd burner may have a convertor for that, or it might be in Audacity. I just did a search and someone said Audacity does this automatically when you mix down.

So, give it a try. Change to 24 bit recording, then make a cd or mp3 the normal way you do with Audacity and see if it sounds good. If not, come back here or send me a private message and we'll see if we can't find an easy fix.

Using a higher bit depth sounds better to me than using a gate. A gate makes a fluttering sound as the volume dies out at the end of a song or when a vocal or instrument fades away. It may take a little work figuring it out and getting it to transfer from 24 to 16 so you can burn a cd or make an mp3, but in my opinion it will be better.

However, I've used Floorfish for other purposes and Sue is right, it works very well. Also, you might notice the fluttering sound a lot less than the noise.

You've got to know your limitations. I don't know what your limitations are. I found out what mine were when I was twelve. I found out that there weren't too many limitations, if I did it my way. -Johnny Cash

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#1041123 - 03/02/14 07:53 PM Re: Plain Recordings [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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I have 16 bit .wav software. I guess the impedance monitor would be disordinate with my rig. Maybe I need to look more at the bit rate.
I am probably a bit more in touch with sounds doing digital recordings for awhile. I had more sound problems when I tried to use software in the past to deal with it. But they are made a little more user friendly from what I hear. I am not going to leave any rock I can learn of unturned with it.
I havn't heard of floorfish and will check that out.

Thanks for tips!


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#1041150 - 03/02/14 11:35 PM Re: Plain Recordings [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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#1042695 - 03/18/14 12:14 PM Re: Plain Recordings [Re: Ray E. Strode]  
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You really don't need to spend a fortune to improve your sound quality. Even Creative Labs has a soundcard geared towards recording for under $70.usd.

It only takes a few minuets to add a Pci card. The difference will be immediately noticeable.

#1056337 - 08/15/14 05:48 PM Re: Plain Recordings [Re: Sue Rarick]  
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Thanks all who posted for the helpful advice.
I purchased a Dell Optiplex that has a lot more clarity then my old pc.
I notice it is basically no frills, no muss nor fuss.
I still have Creative Soundblaster .wav software from 2004.
Along with using free Audacity.
But I don't still have the creative sound card.
Unfortunately I have never quite got in to noise cancellation.
Maybe that wouldn't matter so much with my meager setup or should expect much more.
But it always seemed to be like a picture with some drippings of paint sticking out.

But I like hearing as much as I can about it.

There was this time I couldn't transport a sound file because I was unaware of a certain function.
So it can be something I overlooked with everything else for that matter.

#1058148 - 09/02/14 12:38 PM Re: Plain Recordings [Re: R&M]  
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I made a mistake when saying Creative labs... It was my understanding they had taken over a German company and had integrated it into Creative. I believe they do own it now but it is still a separate company Here is the link and PCi cards I meant: http://auzentech.net/site/index.php

#1058401 - 09/04/14 10:11 AM Re: Plain Recordings [Re: Sue Rarick]  
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Sue - you might be thinking of Emu who were taken over by Creative a few years ago. Creatives recording interfaces are now sold under the Emu brand.

James Perrett, JRP Music http://www.jrpmusic.net

Della Perrett's Sweetedge http://www.sweetedge.com
#1058406 - 09/04/14 12:12 PM Re: Plain Recordings [Re: James Perrett]  
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You might be right James. I do know I e-mailed each of the PCi card companies (Emu/Lynx/Rme etc) I was interested in and asked a tech question. Auzentech was the only one that sent a fast reply back.

My theory is it's better to know what company is going to brush you off ...before you buy their product.

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#1060546 - 09/28/14 08:05 AM Re: Plain Recordings [Re: Sue Rarick]  
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All the more leads the better.
I noticed that these companies sometimes either fold or merge.
I am finding out a lot through key words and names offered.

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