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#1036216 - 01/16/14 06:46 PM OUTLAWS ... Vic
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	I heard so much about Band in a Box so thought I'd get it. This is my first attempt. Soundcloud wav link http://snd.sc/1eFqL24 Soundclick link http://sclk.co/s7j373 Comments and suggs are welcome. Vic Outlaws © Vic Arnold 2014 Intro V1 Some people say he was a bad bad man but no one knows for sure Legends say how Robin Hood gave it all back to the poor V2 Billy the kid lost his heart down in New Mexico So he made a plea for amnesty but the governor said "Hell no!" Ch. If you want to live forever you have to be outlaws You gotta be a rebel for a time If you want to be remembered you have to be outlaws You gotta be a rebel for a while V3 They say Jessie turned a new leaf Thought Bob was his friend Turned his back for a little while and his crimes came to an end V4 A man grows old in his prison ... some say paying for his crimes but gets to be the President because he crossed their line Ch. Inst. Br. Now I don't know what the real truth is and time may never tell But the thing about outlaws is this and everyone knows well Ch. Last edited by Vicarn; 01/19/14 06:09 PM. It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036221 - 01/16/14 07:34 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,199 Bill Osofsky Top 100 Poster
Bill Osofsky Top 100 Poster Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,199 Utah	Hey, that came out great, Vic. Cool song Bill

#1036222 - 01/16/14 07:35 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,796 Michael W. Brown Top 200 Poster
Michael W. Brown Top 200 Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,796 Gun Barrel City, Texas	Vic, This is nice. What a great story as well. Nice production, solid progression, nice fills and solo, and your voice has never sounded better. I'm diggin this song. Well done! Write on, Man, Michael W. Brown, f.k.a. "bluesriff" "The best way to find yourself is to lose yourself in the service of others." Mahatma Gandhi

#1036231 - 01/16/14 09:02 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Michael W. Brown]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	That's good to hear, Bill. Thanks for listening. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036237 - 01/16/14 10:17 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,519 Janice_and_Bud Top 200 Poster
Janice_and_Bud Top 200 Poster Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 1,519 Southeastern USA	Wow, that is a great BIAB first effort -- heck it a great tune under any circumstances. Everything is really mixed to support the story and the vocal. Great listen. BIAB (especially Realtracks) has allowed Janice and me to explore genres we never dreamed of. Band members who show up on time, and are sober, and can play about anything! Check out our album Janice Merritt "All Over The Map" on Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora and others.

#1036242 - 01/16/14 10:35 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Janice_and_Bud]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Thanks for the nice comments, Blues. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036249 - 01/17/14 12:59 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,299 Michael LeBlanc Top 10 Poster
Michael LeBlanc Top 10 Poster Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,299 Louisiana	Well i hope you're enjoying your new toy Vic!What a great way to kick it off too.i like what you did with the lyrics and the music is spot on!Did you add any of your own guitar or is it all BIAB?Mike

#1036261 - 01/17/14 04:27 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Michael LeBlanc]
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 17 Nielen Casual Observer
Nielen Casual Observer Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 17 South Africa	Nice song, Vic - I like the rebel-slanted lyrics. BIAB seems like something look at. The guys on the Banjo Hangout talk about it a lot, but I've never tried it. Nice foot-tapper, too. Sounds like you're having fun and what better way to do it?

#1036266 - 01/17/14 08:57 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Nielen]
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 19,750 Calvin Top 10 Poster
Calvin Top 10 Poster Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 19,750 Okeechobee, Florida U.S.A.	Hi Vic, Hey...You're sounding good. I like this.... If you want to be remembered you have to be outlaws Calvin http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart

#1036272 - 01/17/14 09:40 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Calvin]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Hi Janice and Bud. Thanks for that. Yes, I had the bottle to myself and I let 'em know. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036294 - 01/17/14 02:08 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Hi Mike. Yeah it's all BIAB on this one. Just to try it out. I will be changing a part or two for real though but I am surprised how good some of the real tracks sound. Thanks for having a listen. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036296 - 01/17/14 02:22 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 5,575 Little_stevie_b Top 50 Poster
Little_stevie_b Top 50 Poster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 5,575 Hickory, North Carolina USA	Holy Cow, Vic. This is catchy as can be both lyrically and musically. Gonna listen a few more times to this one. I'm jealous, my friend. Your best that I've heard IMO. Stevie

#1036303 - 01/17/14 04:12 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Little_stevie_b]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Hi there Nielen. Welcome to JPF. Yes, BIAB could make me real lazy. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036311 - 01/17/14 06:44 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 6,852 Ricki E. Bellos Top 30 Poster
Ricki E. Bellos Top 30 Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 6,852 Wisconsin	Hi Vic, Congrats on learning a new toy. Sounds like you've mastered it, good overall musically. Cool toe-tapper. A couple small things with the lyrics. Verse four doesn't fit in with the rest of the verses as it's vague where the others talk about someone specific. Also I think the bridge is the weakest link, it's not really adding to your cool story. The only other thing, since you say "you gotta be a rebel" I was expecting to hear "you have to be an outlaw". Just sayin. Ricki http://www.soundclick.com/rickib http://soundcloud.com/rickib http://www.stoneybeachmusic.com/index.html One door closes, another opens

#1036324 - 01/17/14 09:03 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Ricki E. Bellos]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Hullo Calvin. I'm happy you liked it. Thanks for the vote of confidence. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036325 - 01/17/14 09:06 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Ricki E. Bellos]
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,982 floyd jane Top 200 Poster
floyd jane Top 200 Poster Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,982 Tampa	Vic, Good song. Great job with the Band! Would never believe that was your first try! You've hit the ground runnin'... Nice vocal and harmony on this, too... Looking forward to the next one... floyd

#1036352 - 01/18/14 03:45 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: floyd jane]
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,710 Dan Sullivan Top 100 Poster
Dan Sullivan Top 100 Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 3,710 MI	Vic, You're a good enough musician that you don't need to use BIAB, which actually limits your arrangements. I prefer the "live" songs you've done in the recent past to this BIAB recorded arrangement. I think BIAB should probably be used by the musically challenged (like me) not the musically gifted (like you). Write from your heart, not what you think others want to hear. https://dansullivan2.bandcamp.com http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/dansullivan2

#1036371 - 01/18/14 09:09 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Dan Sullivan]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Hi Stevie. Thanks for listening and I'm glad it was pleasing to your ears. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036375 - 01/18/14 09:34 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Hi there Ricki. Long time no see and I hope you're well. The 4th verse refers to Mandella which I thought was clear enough but maybe I could change it to "Mandella grew old in his prison". Re the bridge: My understanding of a bridge is to link up (musically/lyrically)two sections of a song with a part that is different to the rest of it. A bit like walking from a room where there's a party going on into one that is quiet to gather ones thoughts before returning to the party. That's what I thought I'd done in this. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036427 - 01/18/14 03:48 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Floyd, thanks for the tip on this software. I don't know how much BIAB I'll use on the next but it sure helps on the parts I can't play myself. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036441 - 01/18/14 05:01 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 9,042 John Lawrence Schick Top 20 Poster
John Lawrence Schick Top 20 Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 9,042 PA	Sounds good Vic! Isn't today's technology great. A recording like this probably would have cost you $300 in a studio. Best, John Stop analyzing; just compose the damn thing! http://johnlarenceschick.com/home http://www.imdb.com/name/nm8486845/resume?ref_=nm_ov_res

#1036450 - 01/18/14 05:45 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: John Lawrence Schick]
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 11,534 Travis david Top 10 Poster
Travis david Top 10 Poster Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 11,534 Kendal, Cumbria .UK	Good song Vic and memorable hook.I loved the pace and the backing too.You made the song move along nicely so it had my good foot tapping.Hope someone picks up on it it's well overdue Travjohn We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde

#1036456 - 01/18/14 06:36 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Travis david]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Dan, thank you for having more faith in my abilities than it seems I have. I welcome your compliment but although I can muddle through with some live instruments I can't play fiddle, mandolin or banjo and not much of a lead guitar either. In any case I may go live on some of those tracks later, but at the moment I'm having some fun. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036476 - 01/18/14 08:26 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: John Lawrence Schick]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	I reckon that's not very short of true, John. Hey! I'd do a whole album for that. Thanks for the listen Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036501 - 01/19/14 12:29 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 4,033 TamsNumber4 Top 100 Poster
TamsNumber4 Top 100 Poster Joined: May 2010 Posts: 4,033 New Hampshire	Vic, Love the song, you did a great job, you sound wonderful as usual my friend. I think the lyric is great, but I feel the bridge is a little weak next to the write of the verses, but am very proud of you and your talents. Tammy http://tammyjann.com/ https://soundcloud.com/tamsnumber4 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=1038504 Words are, in my not-so-humble opinion, our most inexhaustible source of magic. Capable of both inflicting injury, and remedying it... Professor Albus Dumbledore

#1036568 - 01/19/14 10:40 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: TamsNumber4]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Hi Travis. Always good to hear from you. Thanks. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036639 - 01/19/14 09:12 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Tammmy. Thanks for your support. Must admit I'm perplexed about the bridge now as you're the second one to mention it. I thought it was just right until now. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036679 - 01/20/14 08:22 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,541 Michele Howlett Top 100 Poster
Michele Howlett Top 100 Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,541 Hunter Valley NSW Australia	Hi Vic If this is your first time using Band in a Box, Oh my goodness, I can't wait for your next song, Wow, this is well done, catchy tune, lyrics, vocally, melody, I love it. Hugs Michele Last edited by Michele Howlett; 01/20/14 08:23 AM. http://www.myspace.com/michelebolton http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6211972

#1036711 - 01/20/14 03:02 PM Re: OUTLAWS ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,704 Kurt Fortmeyer Top 100 Poster
Kurt Fortmeyer Top 100 Poster Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,704 Tennessee	Originally Posted by Vicarn I heard so much about Band in a Box so thought I'd get it. This is my first attempt. Soundcloud wav link http://snd.sc/1eFqL24 Soundclick link http://sclk.co/s7j373 Comments and suggs are welcome. Vic Outlaws © Vic Arnold 2014 Intro V1 Some people say he was a bad bad man but no one knows for sure Legends say how Robin Hood gave it all back to the poor V2 Billy the kid lost his heart down in New Mexico So he made a plea for amnesty but the governor said "Hell no!" Ch. If you want to live forever you have to be outlaws You gotta be a rebel for a time If you want to be remembered you have to be outlaws You gotta be a rebel for a while V3 They say Jessie turned a new leaf Thought Bob was his friend Turned his back for a little while and his crimes came to an end V4 A man grows old in his prison ... some say paying for his crimes but gets to be the President because he crossed their line Ch. Inst. Br. Now I don't know what the real truth is and time may never tell But the thing about outlaws is this and everyone knows well Ch. I'd have to agree with Ricki. Verse four left me flat (and wondering). I was thinking it was referring to the saying "Steal a little and they throw you in jail. Steal a lot and they make you king." Outlaw music is starting to get big. They even have their own association now. You might just have a theme song here. I love words. They say so much. http://kurtfortmeyer.com

#1036733 - 01/20/14 07:04 PM Re: OUTLAWS ... Vic [Re: Kurt Fortmeyer]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Hi Michele. Those are very nice comments. Thank you. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036769 - 01/21/14 08:36 AM Re: OUTLAWS ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	Hi Kurt. Thanks for your comment. Well that's two against that verse so maybe I'll go back to the original verse: They got Black Jack's weight all wrong Where'd he rest his head? In some bloody gunny sack with a pine box for his bed. Vic It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036811 - 01/21/14 06:41 PM Re: OUTLAWS ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 Vicarn Top 40 Poster
Vicarn Top 40 Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 6,125 UK	OK. If anyone is out there, after taking note of some comments I've uploaded a version on Soundcloud with a new 3rd. verse. Here's the link http://snd.sc/1eFqL24 and here's the verse V3 Black Jack. They got his weight all wrong Where'd he rest his head? In some bloody gunny sack with a pine box for his bed. Last edited by Vicarn; 01/21/14 06:42 PM. It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now. If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me. http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2 http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

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