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#1036216 - 01/16/14 06:46 PM OUTLAWS ... Vic  
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I heard so much about Band in a Box so thought I'd get it.
This is my first attempt.

Soundcloud wav link http://snd.sc/1eFqL24

Soundclick link http://sclk.co/s7j373

Comments and suggs are welcome.
Vic


Outlaws © Vic Arnold 2014

Intro
V1
Some people say he was a bad bad man
but no one knows for sure
Legends say how Robin Hood
gave it all back to the poor

V2
Billy the kid lost his heart
down in New Mexico
So he made a plea for amnesty
but the governor said "Hell no!"

Ch.
If you want to live forever you have to be outlaws
You gotta be a rebel for a time
If you want to be remembered you have to be outlaws
You gotta be a rebel for a while

V3
They say Jessie turned a new leaf
Thought Bob was his friend
Turned his back for a little while
and his crimes came to an end

V4
A man grows old in his prison ... some say
paying for his crimes
but gets to be the President
because he crossed their line

Ch.
Inst.
Br.
Now I don't know what the real truth is
and time may never tell
But the thing about outlaws is this
and everyone knows well
Ch.

Last edited by Vicarn; 01/19/14 06:09 PM.

It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

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#1036221 - 01/16/14 07:34 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hey, that came out great, Vic. Cool song

Bill


#1036222 - 01/16/14 07:35 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Vic,

This is nice. What a great story as well. Nice production, solid progression, nice fills and solo, and your voice has never sounded better.
I'm diggin this song.
Well done!


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#1036231 - 01/16/14 09:02 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Michael W. Brown]  
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That's good to hear, Bill.
Thanks for listening.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

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#1036237 - 01/16/14 10:17 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Wow, that is a great BIAB first effort -- heck it a great tune under any circumstances.
Everything is really mixed to support the story and the vocal. Great listen.

BIAB (especially Realtracks) has allowed Janice and me to explore genres we never dreamed of. Band members who show up on time, and are sober, and can play about anything!


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#1036242 - 01/16/14 10:35 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Janice_and_Bud]  
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Thanks for the nice comments, Blues.
Vic



It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036249 - 01/17/14 12:59 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Well i hope you're enjoying your new toy Vic!What a great way to kick it off too.i like what you did with the lyrics and the music is spot on!Did you add any of your own guitar or is it all BIAB?Mike

#1036261 - 01/17/14 04:27 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Michael LeBlanc]  
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Nice song, Vic - I like the rebel-slanted lyrics. BIAB seems like something look at. The guys on the Banjo Hangout talk about it a lot, but I've never tried it.

Nice foot-tapper, too. Sounds like you're having fun and what better way to do it? smile

#1036266 - 01/17/14 08:57 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Nielen]  
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Hi Vic,

Hey...You're sounding good.
I like this....

If you want to be remembered you have to be outlaws

Calvin


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#1036272 - 01/17/14 09:40 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Calvin]  
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Hi Janice and Bud.
Thanks for that. Yes, I had the bottle to myself and I let 'em know.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036294 - 01/17/14 02:08 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Mike.
Yeah it's all BIAB on this one. Just to try it out.
I will be changing a part or two for real though but I am surprised how good some of the real tracks sound.
Thanks for having a listen.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036296 - 01/17/14 02:22 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Holy Cow, Vic. This is catchy as can be both lyrically and musically. Gonna listen a few more times to this one. I'm jealous, my friend. Your best that I've heard IMO.

Stevie

#1036303 - 01/17/14 04:12 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Little_stevie_b]  
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Hi there Nielen.
Welcome to JPF.
Yes, BIAB could make me real lazy.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036311 - 01/17/14 06:44 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Vic,

Congrats on learning a new toy. Sounds like you've mastered it, good overall musically. Cool toe-tapper.

A couple small things with the lyrics. Verse four doesn't fit in with the rest of the verses as it's vague where the others talk about someone specific. Also I think the bridge is the weakest link, it's not really adding to your cool story.

The only other thing, since you say "you gotta be a rebel" I was expecting to hear "you have to be an outlaw". Just sayin. smile

Ricki

#1036324 - 01/17/14 09:03 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Ricki E. Bellos]  
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Hullo Calvin.
I'm happy you liked it.
Thanks for the vote of confidence.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036325 - 01/17/14 09:06 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Ricki E. Bellos]  
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Vic,

Good song. Great job with the Band! Would never believe that was your first try! You've hit the ground runnin'...

Nice vocal and harmony on this, too...

Looking forward to the next one...

floyd

#1036352 - 01/18/14 03:45 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: floyd jane]  
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Vic, You're a good enough musician that you don't need to use BIAB, which actually limits your arrangements. I prefer the "live" songs you've done in the recent past to this BIAB recorded arrangement. I think BIAB should probably be used by the musically challenged (like me) not the musically gifted (like you).


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#1036371 - 01/18/14 09:09 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Dan Sullivan]  
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Hi Stevie.
Thanks for listening and I'm glad it was pleasing to your ears.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036375 - 01/18/14 09:34 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi there Ricki.
Long time no see and I hope you're well.

The 4th verse refers to Mandella which I thought was clear enough but maybe I could change it to "Mandella grew old in his prison".

Re the bridge:
My understanding of a bridge is to link up (musically/lyrically)two sections of a song with a part that is different to the rest of it. A bit like walking from a room where there's a party going on into one that is quiet to gather ones thoughts before returning to the party.
That's what I thought I'd done in this.
Vic



It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036427 - 01/18/14 03:48 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Floyd,
thanks for the tip on this software.
I don't know how much BIAB I'll use on the next but it sure helps on the parts I can't play myself.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036441 - 01/18/14 05:01 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Sounds good Vic! Isn't today's technology great. A recording like this probably would have cost you $300 in a studio.

Best, John smile

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Good song Vic and memorable hook.I loved the pace and the backing too.You made the song move along nicely so it had my good foot tapping.Hope someone picks up on it it's well overdue
Travjohn


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#1036456 - 01/18/14 06:36 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Travis david]  
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Dan,
thank you for having more faith in my abilities than it seems I have.
I welcome your compliment but although I can muddle through with some live instruments I can't play fiddle, mandolin or banjo and not much of a lead guitar either.
In any case I may go live on some of those tracks later, but at the moment I'm having some fun.
Vic



It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036476 - 01/18/14 08:26 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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I reckon that's not very short of true, John.
Hey! I'd do a whole album for that. cool
Thanks for the listen
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036501 - 01/19/14 12:29 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Vic,

Love the song, you did a great job, you sound wonderful as usual my friend. I think the lyric is great, but I feel the bridge is a little weak next to the write of the verses, but am very proud of you and your talents.

Tammy


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#1036568 - 01/19/14 10:40 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: TamsNumber4]  
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Hi Travis.
Always good to hear from you.
Thanks.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036639 - 01/19/14 09:12 PM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Tammmy. Thanks for your support.
Must admit I'm perplexed about the bridge now as you're the second one to mention it. I thought it was just right until now.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036679 - 01/20/14 08:22 AM Re: Outlaws ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Vic

If this is your first time using Band in a Box, Oh my goodness, smile I can't wait for your next song, Wow, this is well done, catchy tune, lyrics, vocally, melody, I love it. whistle

Hugs Michele

Last edited by Michele Howlett; 01/20/14 08:23 AM.
#1036711 - 01/20/14 03:02 PM Re: OUTLAWS ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Originally Posted by Vicarn
I heard so much about Band in a Box so thought I'd get it.
This is my first attempt.

Soundcloud wav link http://snd.sc/1eFqL24

Soundclick link http://sclk.co/s7j373

Comments and suggs are welcome.
Vic


Outlaws © Vic Arnold 2014

Intro
V1
Some people say he was a bad bad man
but no one knows for sure
Legends say how Robin Hood
gave it all back to the poor

V2
Billy the kid lost his heart
down in New Mexico
So he made a plea for amnesty
but the governor said "Hell no!"

Ch.
If you want to live forever you have to be outlaws
You gotta be a rebel for a time
If you want to be remembered you have to be outlaws
You gotta be a rebel for a while

V3
They say Jessie turned a new leaf
Thought Bob was his friend
Turned his back for a little while
and his crimes came to an end

V4
A man grows old in his prison ... some say
paying for his crimes
but gets to be the President
because he crossed their line

Ch.
Inst.
Br.
Now I don't know what the real truth is
and time may never tell
But the thing about outlaws is this
and everyone knows well
Ch.


I'd have to agree with Ricki. Verse four left me flat (and wondering). I was thinking it was referring to the saying "Steal a little and they throw you in jail. Steal a lot and they make you king."
Outlaw music is starting to get big. They even have their own association now. You might just have a theme song here.


I love words. They say so much.

http://kurtfortmeyer.com
#1036733 - 01/20/14 07:04 PM Re: OUTLAWS ... Vic [Re: Kurt Fortmeyer]  
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Hi Michele.
Those are very nice comments. Thank you.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036769 - 01/21/14 08:36 AM Re: OUTLAWS ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Kurt.
Thanks for your comment.
Well that's two against that verse so maybe I'll go back to the original verse:

They got Black Jack's weight all wrong
Where'd he rest his head?
In some bloody gunny sack
with a pine box for his bed.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1036811 - 01/21/14 06:41 PM Re: OUTLAWS ... Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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OK.
If anyone is out there, after taking note of some comments I've uploaded a version on Soundcloud with a new 3rd. verse.

Here's the link http://snd.sc/1eFqL24

and here's the verse
V3
Black Jack. They got his weight all wrong
Where'd he rest his head?
In some bloody gunny sack
with a pine box for his bed.

Last edited by Vicarn; 01/21/14 06:42 PM.

It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold


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