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#674820 - 12/13/08 09:12 PM What's your favorite portamento?  
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A portamento is a smooth glide up or down from one note to another. It can be short, moving a minor second, or it can go beyond an octave.

My favorite is the clarinet portemanto in...well, I'll let you guess what it's in.

And what's your favorite?


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#676576 - 12/21/08 08:45 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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Hint. I want a hint.
Was it from a musical?


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#676578 - 12/21/08 08:51 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Jean Bullock]  
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It wasn't written to be a musical. It was a major "work."


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#676590 - 12/21/08 09:59 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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Portamento? I think my parents used to get those at the Italian butcher shop when I was a kid...

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#676594 - 12/21/08 10:13 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Jean Bullock]  
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Here is another Hint- The composer has my initials. (I'm I right Mike?)

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#676603 - 12/21/08 11:08 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: 4gs]  
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Welcome, Gregg, right you are!


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#676734 - 12/22/08 08:22 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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OK. I've got it. It's the first thing that came to my mind but I kept thinking of Porgy and Bess and that wasn't right.

It has a color.


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#676757 - 12/22/08 11:37 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Jean Bullock]  
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OK, and while folks are catching on to that one, here's another one. It's a famous 60's rock song with a bass note portamento that goes up a fifth.


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#677407 - 12/27/08 01:29 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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Sigh. I guess I need a hint. Again.


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#677415 - 12/27/08 02:50 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Jean Bullock]  
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Jean,

The portamento is played on the bass. A twelve string picks the part, and the title mentions another instrument. 1965, if I recall correctly.

Mike


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#677428 - 12/27/08 04:52 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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Originally Posted by Mike Dunbar
OK, and while folks are catching on to that one, here's another one. It's a famous 60's rock song with a bass note portamento that goes up a fifth.


Spinning Wheel?


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#677430 - 12/27/08 04:59 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Johnny Daubert]  
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I like the slides that are in the break of "A Day In a Life"! Many sounds are not slides of course, but there are a few in there.

I also like the bass one in "One Of These Nights" The Eagles.

And I bet Jaco has a ton of them!


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#677484 - 12/27/08 02:40 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Johnny Daubert]  
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John, great stuff. Jaco found portamentos to be easy, unlike some other bass players, he didn't fret about them.

I also like the velvety smooth slides in that song with the terribly un-pc hooky phrase in that unlikely hook by a singer from an underground band. Now, I wonder, which one was that?


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#677487 - 12/27/08 02:45 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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John,

Nope, not spinning wheel, but that was a great one. I used to sing that in an oldies band.

The one I'm thinking of was from a rock band that later turned somewhat country. The slide was done on a bass by a bass player who later became a grammy winning piano session player (I was thrilled to play some sessions with him years ago, and got that info from the horse's mouth.)

So now we have two songs in question. I'll give more clues later smile


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#677509 - 12/27/08 05:50 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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More hints. More hints.



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#677513 - 12/27/08 06:16 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Jean Bullock]  
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OK, Jean, for the bass portamento from the 1965 hit, the band was not made up of supermen, nor were they airplanes.

For the velvety smooth slides in the un-pc song, both leads were played with a reed.


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#677763 - 12/28/08 11:18 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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#677766 - 12/28/08 11:33 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Jean Bullock]  
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That would be the Byrds version of Dylan's "Tambourine Man". I just got a tambourine for Christmas, so I should know. I also got a cowbell. I want another one.

How about another hit song with a bass portamento...while it goes down, another one goes up. 1972.

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Oops, Marnie beat me to the cookie. grin

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Jinx!

#677774 - 12/28/08 11:40 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mark Kaufman]  
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Don't forget, there's another one up too! And it's a lu-lu.


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#678004 - 12/30/08 04:56 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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I have heard the term before.
Honestly, I did not think of the meaning and if I would have guessed I would have thought it was some odd shaped fish.
Though I know what an Aria is.
I did Dylan's "knocking On Heavens Door" when I first picked up an acoustic guitar.
I am going to have to try "Tambourine Man".

Thanks Mike for enlightening those who do not know these terms.

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Originally Posted by Mike Dunbar
Jaco found portamentos to be easy, unlike some other bass players, he didn't fret about them.


Ha! Mike, good one!
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Lou Reed? Velvet Underground? No idea of the song though if that's even the band.


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#678340 - 12/31/08 11:43 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Johnny Daubert]  
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It was "velvety" by a guy FROM an "underground" band. Two reeds on the lead, one sang, the other played at the end. So close, so close. Two portamentos, going opposite directions. Probably the jazziest rock hit of all time, practically Brubeck sans piano.

Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pAE5G5OBzw


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#678345 - 01/01/09 12:21 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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Mike gets the cookie for the lu-lu. smile

This song and the album it was on was produced by David Bowie, and this cool and unusual production is a big part of why this song is so appealing, even to people who are offended by the content. Those fading in and out doot doodoots, the in-your-face vocal sound...just a stellar recording.

One of the portamentos (portamenti?) is on a stand up bass, the other is, if I recall correctly, an electric bass.

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Cool song. Worst vocal. Like Dylan I guess. Too cool to ignore.


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#678348 - 01/01/09 12:51 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Johnny Daubert]  
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Oh, no, John, please don't tell me a lifelong musician like you doesn't "get" Dylan or Lou Reed!

How come no one complains about Louis Armstrong's voice? grin

#678353 - 01/01/09 01:24 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mark Kaufman]  
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#678510 - 01/01/09 11:53 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: John Marnie]  
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How about a trombone portamento? 1962, big hit. This song really took off!


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#678512 - 01/02/09 12:09 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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I know the answer, so I can't answer. Catch 22. But your phrasing is the best. grin

#678514 - 01/02/09 12:18 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mark Kaufman]  
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Yeah there' ssome kind of portobello goin' on in "take a walk on the wild side".

#678515 - 01/02/09 12:22 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Tom Tracy]  
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How about the horn in the very beginning of the Bozo the clown theme song?

#678543 - 01/02/09 03:19 AM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Tom Tracy]  
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How about some vocal portamentos? There are a whole lot of them.


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#678854 - 01/03/09 03:27 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: Mike Dunbar]  
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I have not looked much in to the underground paramento's, but got in to some of the Velvet Underground.
I probably have got in to many paramento's without knowing them.

Lou Reed!
Now his kind of stuff went in to that New York, NRBQ sound that sprouted acts like David Bowie.

I like those over and under scales.
Scales like that exist in a lot of alt and psychedelic music, now that I think about it.

Magic Carpet Ride (Steppenwolf) almost sounds like the players are in their own orbit with it, yet it sounds unified and unique.
I don't know if that song would qualify as having a paramento though.

#1010627 - 06/02/13 09:50 PM Re: What's your favorite portamento? [Re: mattbanx]  
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What is the latest on Lou Reed's health?


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